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I have been trying to trace both the birth and death records of John Alfred Wright.he was born abought 1886 ,exact date and place unknown. Was Living in Hertfordshire 1n the 1920s and 1930s John was a Hairdresserby Trade

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John Alfred Wright
British Columbia, Death Registrations, 1872-1986
birth: 14 Dec 1886 ,? England
death: 04 Jan 1967 Vancouver,? British Columbia,? Canada
parents: Wright
spouse: Amy Ethel Dutfield


name: John Alfred Wright
event: Death
event date: 04 Jan 1967
event place: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
gender: Male
age: 80
marital status: Widowed
birth date: 14 Dec 1886
birthplace: , England
father: Wright
spouse: Amy Ethel Dutfield
british columbia archives film number: B13281
digital folder number: 004479272
registration number: 67 09 001149

Marriages Mar 1923 (>99%)
Dutfield Amy E Wright King's N. 6d 281 xxxx
Lane Flora Powell Kings N. 6d 281
Lane Millicent F Powell King's N. 6d 281
Powell Norman Lane King's N. 6d 281
Wright John A Dutfield King's N. 6d 281 xxxx

John A Wright
England and Wales Census, 1911
birth: Ware,? Hertfordshire
census: 1911 Hertford,? The Folly Hertford,? Hertfordshire,? England


name: John A Wright
event: Census
event date: 1911
gender: Male
age: 31
birthplace: Ware, Hertfordshire
record type: Household
registration district: Hertford
sub-district: Hertford
parish: Hertford
county: Hertfordshire

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Births Mar 1887 (>99%)
Wright John Alfred Elham 2a 1006

you must know more about him than you are telling us - tell us all you know

John Wright
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Male
Where born: Lyminge, Kent, England
Civil parish: Cheriton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Martin
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street Address

Registration district: Elham
Sub-registration district: Folkestone

could be the Elham birth -- not found on other censuses !!!!

Mavis

PM received from Douglas (hope you don't mind, I've just posted some of it so others can help):

My Father was John Alfred Wright and Mother Ellen King. Mother Was Born in December 1886.
My Parents Moved from Greenwich London in 1926,My Father had a Hairdressers shop at 23-25 Bramshott Avenue from 1920 until they moved to Buntingford in 1927.
I was 3years old when my father Left home, I have no record where he went or where he was born or his age.

So no trace of father from 1930-ish. I can't see a marriage for them either.

Turns out Ellen King married Matthew Derham in 1908, but I can't see a Wright/Derham marriage either, so suspect the parents were never married.

Need some help on this one folks please!

1911 for Ellen?

Matthew Derham
Age in 1911: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Oldham
Civil parish: Greenwich
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 73 Siebert Rd, Blackheath, London SE
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: GROOM
Registration district: Greenwich
Registration District Number: 28
Sub-registration district: Greenwich East
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Piece: 2709
Household Members: Name Age
Matthew Derham 29
Ellen Derham 24 <<<born Acton
William Derham 2 <<<born Woolwich
Emma Webb 55 <<lodger

Possibly your mothers first marriage:

Matthew Derham
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Spouse Name: Ellen King
Spouse Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 23 Feb 1908
Parish: Greenwich, East Christ Church
Borough: Greenwich
Father Name: William Derham
Spouse Father Name: Edward King
Register Type: Parish Register

I'm guessing Matthew served in WW1 as there is Samuel G born 1913, then a gap to Charles S in 1919.

However, can't find a birth or death for Matthew.

Was hoping Matthew's pension record might give some clues about Ellen, but sadly not:

British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920
Name: Mathew Derham
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Age at enlistment: 18
Birth Parish: Higginshaw
Birth County: Lancashire
Document Year: 1900 - First attested 17 Feb 1900 at Manchester
Regimental Number: 4903
Regiment Name: Royal Horse and Royal Field Artillery
Number of images: 15

Spouse Ellen King, marriage as already posted by Flip.

Children listed as
William Matthew 14 Nov 1908 Woolwich
May Ellen Mary 13 May 1911 Greenwich
Samuel George 08 May 1913 Greenwich

Discharged 11 April 1919 to 50 Invicta Road, Broadheath, London.

I'd take a guess on this being his birth:

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Matthew Durham
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1882
Registration district: Oldham
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 648

They sound the same when you say them out loud.

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1847-1965
Name: Matthew Derham
Electoral Year: 1946
Parliamentary Division: Greenwich
County or Borough: Greenwich

Living at 32 Lizban Street, at the same address is Elizabeth Johnson & Albert Buckley.
The street before this one is Invicta Road, where he was demobbed to in 1919.

In 1953 (which is the last one I can find) it's the same scenario but with the addition of an Eva Buckley.

Possibly:

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006
Name: Matthew Durham
Birth Date: abt 1882
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1960
Age at Death: 78
Registration district: Greenwich
Inferred County: London
Volume: 5c
Page: 573

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1847-1965
Name: John Alfred Wright
Electoral Year: 1921
Parliamentary Division: Finsbury and Greenwich
County or Borough: Islington

Premises are 23-25 Bramshot Avenue (ties in with the info in Douglas' pm). Home abode is 180 Westcombe Hill.

Help!! Does anyone know how to search the ER by address to see if Ellen is at 180 Westcombe Hill?

Matthew's mother was Harriet on that army record (well found MC), so this is probably his parents marriage

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1875
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
DERHAM William CLARK Harriet Oldham, Lower Moor, St. Stephen & All Martyrs Oldham CE237/1/28

However, this isn't getting any nearer Douglas's father - and I've no idea how to search ERs by address

On Ancestry you can search the London ER but you need to know the borough and parliamentary division that the street comes under.
From Google I think Westcombe Hill is Blackheath but I just can't get to that.

A bit more, Matthew & Ellen Derham were recorded on the ERs 1919-1926 at 50 Invicta Place. Just looking for her in 1927 at the moment.