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William Fisher b.1826 and Thomas Fisher b. 1821

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JEC

JEC Report 12 Sep 2012 15:16

1841 census for Bushey, Herts

Thomas Fisher Head aged 48, chimney sweep
Charlotte Fisher Wife aged 30
Thomas Fisher aged 20
William Fisher aged 15
John Fisher aged 9
Edward Fisher aged 8
Sarah Fisher aged 6

All born in Herts.


Can anyone please furnish any details of a previous marriage of Thomas snr. He married Charlotte (see above), at Rickmansworth, in 1831. He has been described, in some records, as 'widower' and I surmise that Thomas jnr and William are from the previous marriage. I can find no details at all of his life before marriage to Charlotte. Help, please!

Gee

Gee Report 12 Sep 2012 15:22

How do you know that Charlotte is his wife in the 1841 census please?

No relationships are given

Gee

Gee Report 12 Sep 2012 15:30

1851 England Census
Name: Edward Fisher
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Sarah Moss
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Bushey, Hertfordshire, England

Civil parish: Bushey
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Registration district: Watford
Sub-registration district: Bushey
ED, institution, or vessel: 2a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 30
Piece: 1714
Folio: 67
Page Number: 8
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah Moss 40
Edward Fisher 19 <<<
Sarah Fisher 18 <<<
Alfred Fisher 10 <<<
Mary Moss 5
Jessie Moss 3
James Freeman 17
John Upplegand 22


Are these the siblings from the 1841 census?


Is there a connection with Charlotte Fisher and 'Moss'


Marriages Dec 1844 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Brown Mary Watford 6 1063
FISHER Charlotte Watford 6 1063 <<<<<<<<<<
Moss Abednego Watford 6 1063 <<<<<<<<<
SEABROOK Joseph Watford 6 1063
STEPHENS Ann Maria Watford 6 1063
TOOLEY James Watford 6 1063
TOOLEY Mary Ann Watford 6 1063
USHER James Watford 6 1063

Gee

Gee Report 12 Sep 2012 15:51

So Charlotte married Moss


1861 England Census
about Jessa Moss
Name: Jessa Moss
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Charlotte Moss
Gender: Female
Where born: Bushey, Hertfordshire, England

Civil parish: Watford
Town: Watford
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Registration district: Watford
Sub-registration district: Watford
ED, institution, or vessel: 2e
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 93
Piece: 833
Folio: 57
Page Number: 19
Household Members: Name Age
Charlotte Moss 50
Maria Moss 16
Jessa Moss 13
Edward Fisher 28
John Appleyard 32




Cripes, Charlotte didnt hang around!


Deaths Jun 1844
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FISHER Thomas Watford 6 404

Barry

Barry Report 12 Sep 2012 16:41

familysearch.org

4 baptisms betweeen 1815 and 1825 Bushey Herts
Joseph 1815
William and Isaac 1821
Jeremiah 1825
father Thomas Fisher
mother SABRAH

cannot see a marriage

Abby

Abby Report 12 Sep 2012 16:49

Groom's Name: Abednego Moss
Groom's Birth Date: 1821
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age: 23
Bride's Name: Charlotte Fisher
Bride's Birth Date: 1813
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age: 31
Marriage Date: 1844
Marriage Place: Bushey, Hertford, England
Groom's Father's Name: George Moss
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name: Moses Andrews
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M07222-4
System Origin: England-VR
Source Film Number: 1040807
Reference Number: 2:P28BR1

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 13 Sep 2012 04:23

In that 1861 Census found by Ginny ................


Edward Fisher is shown as Lodger

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 13 Sep 2012 04:30

They definitely had problems with her name!!!!



England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Thomas Fisher
christening: 30 May 1819 ST. MARYS,? WATFORD,? HERTFORD,? ENGLAND
residence: Watford,? Hertford,? England

parents: Thomas Fisher,? Jaba


Isaac Fisher
christening: 01 Nov 1821 Bushey,? Hertford,? England
residence: Bushey,? Hertford,? England

parents: Thomas Fisher,? Sabrah


William Fisher
christening: 01 Nov 1821 Bushey,? Hertford,? England
residence: Bushey,? Hertford,? England

parents: Thomas Fisher,? Sabrah


Joseph Fisher
christening: 10 Dec 1815 Bushey,? Hertford,? England
residence: Bushey,? Hertford,? England

parents: Thomas Fisher,? Labrah


Thomas Fisher
christening: 30 May 1819 Watford,? Hertford,? England
residence: Watford,? Hertford,? England

parents: Thomas Fisher,? Saba





sylvia

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 13 Sep 2012 07:52

https://www.hertsdirect.org/ufs/ufsmain?ebz=1_1347519103334&formid=HALS_INDEXES

(above link can be useful for Herts.)

Chris :)


Burial (Find My Past)

First name(s): Thomas
Last name: FISHER
Date of burial 19 May 1844
Age at death: 52
Calculated year of birth: 1792
Place of burial Bushey
Dedication: St James
County: Hertfordshire
Bushey St James:
Denomination: Anglican
Coverage 1800 - 1851
Data provider: Hertfordshire Family & Population History

JEC

JEC Report 14 Sep 2012 15:27

Thank you everybody.

No, the 1841 census doesn't quote Charlotte as wife but I have other info., eg IGI, which marries her to Thomas.

Charlotte/Moss connection? I'm not convinced.