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FreeBMD has transcriptions of the GRO index. These are essentially complete thru the 1930s, except 1918q4 (98% complete) and 1939 (82% complete). From 1911q3, the index contains the mum's MS=maiden surname.
Here I looked in Wigan RD for Smith-Banks kids 1911q3-1915
Births Sep 1912 (>99%) Smith James Banks Wigan 8c 63 ------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1915 (>99%) Smith John Banks Wigan 8c 107 ------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1915 (>99%) Smith Thomas Banks Wigan 8c 5
Even here, it's likely the 2 1915 registrations are for difft families, but pre-1911q3, it gets impossible for Smiths. There's 851 in 1901-1911q2. Of course, most didn't die.
As you may know, you can buy BMD certs from the GRO and the RD in which the event was rego'ed (well, really the modern rego office that now has those old regos). The point is that some modern RDs have their own indexes online, and these don't contain the same info as the GRO index. See - http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/local_bmd
Here's the above 3 b.regos:
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference 1912 SMITH James Wigan Wigan & Leigh BANKS WIG/271/88 1915 SMITH John Wigan Wigan & Leigh BANKS WIG/280/409 1915 SMITH Thomas Standish Wigan & Leigh BANKS STND/47/12
Now I might know my Smiths always lived in Wigan centre, and never in Standish, e.g.. Most local indexes give the subdistrict for b & d.regos. Sometimes, you have to look at the postal order form to see this, and they don't always explicitly decode it.
E.g., here's some Newcastle local ref #s: Register No./Entry No. ALS64/381 Register No./Entry No. BYK34/197 Register No./Entry No. STA30/463 Register No./Entry No. WSG67/485 Register No./Entry No. LBN31/88
If you don't recognize some, look up some event, e.g. Births Mar 1911 (>99%) Smith John W Newcastle T. 10b 167
then click on the "Newcastle T" link, then the more info "here" link: NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE REGISTRATION DISTRICT Sub-districts : All Saints, Benwell, Byker, Dene, Elswick, Newcastle upon Tyne, Newcastle upon Tyne Central, Newcastle upon Tyne East, Newcastle upon Tyne West, St. Andrew, St. Nicholas, Victoria, Westgate, Wingrove Registers now held by : Newcastle upon Tyne.
This resolves all the subdistrict codes, except LBN=Longbenton. This was a Tynemouth RD subdistrict moved to Newcastle RD (as explained in note 2e).
However, I didn't pick Wigan at random. They're one of the local indexes that list the mum's MS pre-1911.
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference 1901 SMITH Harry Cecil Wigan Wigan & Leigh BANKS WIG/223/238 1902 SMITH Alfred Eric Sumner Wigan Wigan & Leigh BANKS WIG/229/259 1910 SMITH Ernest Wigan Wigan & Leigh BANKS WIG/265/222
========================= Here's a difft sort of record:
http://www.wiganworld.co.uk/stuff/cemetery.php?opt=cemetery Surname Forename Age Place of Death Date Year Notes Grave Cremation Religion McCann Lilian 2 mo 17 Northumberland St. 26-May 1888 D 72 * R C
The grave is D72* - the * was added by the transcribers to indicate this was likely a common grave. However, I do recognize the addy - my McCann rellies were there in 1891. (Since this is also a Wigan B & D, I can check her mum's MS, but the point was cemetery records might give clues, too.)
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How feasible your search is depends a lot on the surname - e.g., in 1911 there's only one Hesmondhalgh family in Leics.
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The 1911 census will record the number of children born during the marriage......and the number who have died.
It will also tell you how long the parents have been married, so you will have a time-frame for the search
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Hello Mary, if you don't mind giving your dad's details then we could look at the family in 1911 and try to help if you want.
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Hi Sue,thank you for your help,my dad was born in 1910,but i will try that anyway but i think most of the deaths were before that.thanks again Mary
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When was your father born?? If it was after 1911 then you could go on FREEBMD and put his parents surnames in the boxes and click on BIRTH.
It should bring up some children's names for the parents.
Good Luck. Sue
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how do i find ancesters who died as chrldren,i have 5 or 6 of my fathers siblings that died but i don`d know their names.as anyone any advise.thank you Mary.
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