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Banns but no marriage

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Amy

Amy Report 5 Sep 2012 22:15

Hi,

I'm trying to trace my ancestors, Janet/Jessie Robb and Alexander MacIntosh. Both were born in Scotland but moved to London, and (purportedly) married there.

I have found a copy of the banns for their marriage, but no marriage seems to have taken place (all of the others have the marriage date written in the margin except this one).

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?htx=View&r=5538&dbid=1623&iid=31280_198822-00217&fn=Jannett&ln=Robb&st=r&ssrc=pt_t1286806_p-273532061_kpidz0q3d-273532061z0q26pgz0q3d32768z0q26pgPLz0q3dpid&pid=7627283#

I know they stayed together and had more children (having already had some prior to the banns), so I can't understand why they didn't marry. I was really hoping to get a hold of their marriage certificate to try and help me trace their Scottish roots.

Any help greatly appreciated.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 5 Sep 2012 22:19

Hello Amy - can you give us some relevant dates please

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 5 Sep 2012 22:23

Banns are in 1851 shown on Ancestry London Marriages and Banns

Name: Alexander Mackintosh
Spouse Name: Jannett Robb
Record Type: Banns
Event Date: 18 May 1851
Parish: St Marylebone Christ Church
Borough: Westminster
Register Type: Parish Register



Banns were read on three dates - 4th,11th and 18th May

Amy

Amy Report 5 Sep 2012 22:24

Sure - the banns were read in May 1851 in Marylebone.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 5 Sep 2012 22:36

Probably didnt take place then because she was under 21 and dint have her fathers permission
1851 census
Name: Jannett Robb
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relationship: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Ketton, Dumfries
Parish Number: 858
Civil parish: Borgue
County: Kirkcudbrightshire
Address: Ingleston
Occupation: House Serv & Nurse
ED: 5
Page: 9 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 23
Line: 13
Roll: CSSCT1851_211
Household Members:
Name Age
Adam Gray 30
Jane Gray 27
William Gray 7
Margret Gray 3
Jane Gray 11
Joseph Henning 28
Jannett Robb 20 >>>>>>
Mary Hunter 22
James Thompson 52
Peter Haggans 38
Barnie Rylie 20

Source Citation: Parish: Borgue; ED: 5; Page: 9; Line: 13; Roll: CSSCT1851_211; Year: 1851.

Amy

Amy Report 5 Sep 2012 22:41

I think that's a different person - I have her here in 1851:

Name: Janet McIntaon
[Janet McIntosh]
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Alexander McIntaon
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Scotland
Civil parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: Marylebone
Sub-registration district: Christchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 129
Piece: 1490
Folio: 745
Page Number: 33

Household Members:
Name Age
Alexander McIntaon 35
Janet McIntaon 28
Francis McIntaon 6
Alison McIntaon 21
William McIntaon 18 Mo

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 5 Sep 2012 22:42

Cant see them on any census?? when were they born please

Amy

Amy Report 5 Sep 2012 22:43

And in 1841 she was living at the same address as Alexander McIntosh:

Name: Jesey Rool
[Jessie Roob]
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Gender: Female
Where born: Scotland
Civil parish: St Marylebone
Hundred: Ossulstone (Holborn Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Registration district: St Marylebone
Sub-registration district: All Souls and Trinity
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 675
Book: 3
Folio: 34
Page Number: 62

Amy

Amy Report 5 Sep 2012 22:43

Janet/Jessie was born in approx 1823, Alexander was born in approx 1816.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 5 Sep 2012 22:46

ah!! a bad mistranscription

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 5 Sep 2012 22:54

Do you have a birth cert to confirm her maiden name as Robb ?

Amy

Amy Report 5 Sep 2012 23:15

Yes, I have one of her children's birth certificates which confirms this.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 6 Sep 2012 07:00

Name: John Mackintosh
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1859
Baptism Date: 10 Jul 1859
Father's Name: Alexander Mackintosh (Painter)
Mother's Name: Jessie Robb Mackintosh
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Pancras St Mary Magdalene
Borough: Camden
Register Type: Parish Registers

(related?, address, 18, Henry Street)


1851 (Find My Past version!)
MCINTALLA, Alexander Head Married M 35 1816 Painter
Scotland
MCINTALLA, Janet Wife F 28 1823 At Home
Scotland
MCINTALLA, Francis Son M 6 1845 Scholar
London
MCINTALLA, Alexander Son M 4 1847
London
MCINTALLA, William Daughter M 1 (1 YRS 6 MOS) 1850
London
Piece: 1490
Folio: 745
Page: 32
Registration District: Marylebone
Civil Parish: Saint Marylebone
Municipal Borough: Marylebone
Address: 22, Upper Park Place, Saint Marylebone, Marylebone
County: Middlesex

Chris :)

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 6 Sep 2012 07:01

1861


Name: Francis McIntosh
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Alexd McIntosh
Mother's Name: Jessie McIntosh
Gender: Male
Where born: Marylebone, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: Mary Magdalen
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

View image
Registration district: Pancras
Sub-registration district: Regents Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 281
Piece: 97
Folio: 119
Page Number: 46
Household Members:
Name Age
Alexd McIntosh 47
Jessie McIntosh 37
Francis McIntosh 17
Alexd McIntosh 14
William McIntosh 12
James McIntosh 10
Phillip McIntosh 4
John McIntosh 1

Can't see a marriage

Gee

Gee Report 6 Sep 2012 07:05

Not sure why you posted again?


http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1232832

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 6 Sep 2012 07:11

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1223673

(above also related)

Chris :)