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jessie spence 2 mar 1893

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Philip

Philip Report 4 Sep 2012 08:42

hi - i am looking for information on a jessie spence born 2 mar 1893 - died apr 1960 in scotland
i know she was married to albert brown 15/03/1894 and died 15/11/1938 they had kids
thomas 1919 john 1923 albert 1925 alexander 1927 janet 1928and agnes welsh brown 05/08/1932 - 2010 (my wifes mother)
any information will be gratefully received :-D :-D :-D

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 4 Sep 2012 09:04

Philip, could you just clarify as it reads like your giving two different death dates for her - April 1960 and November 1938 (is the latter actually her husband's?).

Did they all remain in Scotland? If so, you need to use Scotland's People http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/

Philip

Philip Report 4 Sep 2012 09:45

HI - JESSIE DIED IN APR 1960 AND HER HUSBAND ALBERT DIED IN 1938 AND YES THEY ARE ALL SCOTTISH
PHIL

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 4 Sep 2012 10:03

What information are you looking for please Philip?

Do you have her marriage or death certificate giving the names of her parents please?

Have you found her on the 1901 or 1911 census?

Where in Scotland did they marry and where were the children born?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 4 Sep 2012 10:10

Any idea where she was born?

theres two possible ones
1901 census
name: Jessie Spence
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Relationship: Patient
Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow
Registration Number: 622/2
Registration district: Shettleston
Civil parish: Shettleston
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Wr Glasgow
Occupation: Scholar
ED: Lightburn Hospital
Household schedule number: 1
Line: 23
Roll: CSSCT1901_245


Name: Jessie Watson Spence
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Gender: Female
Where born: St Cyriac, Kincardineshire
Registration Number: 260
Registration district: Garvock
Civil parish: Garvock
County: Kincardineshire
Address: Cottarhouse E Bathagarty
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 8
Line: 9
Roll: CSSCT1901_83
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Duncan 29
Maggie Duncan 7
Isabella Duncan 6
James Duncan 4
Elsie Watson 36
Jessie Watson Spence 8
John Watson 5

Source Citation: Parish: Garvock; ED: 2; Page: 2; Line: 9; Roll: CSSCT1901_83.



her marriage cert will name her parents


You would have to get this through Scotlands People website which isnt a subs site

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 4 Sep 2012 11:27

Had a look on SP. Jessie gives her father's occupation as a Mechanic when she marries in Renfrew but when her parents in Bridgeton her father is a Weaver ( maybe warper) journeyman. So this looks like her parents in 1891.

1891

Name: John Spence
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Janet Spence
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 575
Registration district: Renfrew
Civil parish: Renfrew
County: Renfrewshire
Address: Moor Park P K
Occupation: Cotton Yarn Paper Dresser
ED: 10
Household schedule number: 33
Line: 10
Roll: CSSCT1891_195
Household Members: Name Age
John Spence 29
Janet Spence 27 b. Glasgow
Maggie Spence 5 b. Glasgow
Alexander Spence 3 b. Paisley
Edward Spence 2 Mo b. Renfrew
Andrew McAdams 17 brother-in-law, Cotton Yarn Drawer, b. Glasgow

Father John in 1881 (same street as given on his marriage)

Name: Margaret Spence
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relationship: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/1
Registration district: Bridgeton
Civil parish: Glasgow Barony
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 35 Hozier Street
ED: 18
Household schedule number: 112
Line: 13
Roll: cssct1881_214
Household Members: Name Age
Margaret Spence 48
Mary Spence 24
Alexander Spence 21
John Spence 19
William Spence 16
Jane Spence 13

1871

Name: Alexander Spence
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Margaret Spence
Gender: Male
Where born: Eaglesham, Renfrew
Registration Number: 644/3
Registration district: Bridgeton
Civil parish: Glasgow Calton
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 23(B) Dunn St.
Occupation: Cotton Spinner
ED: 78
Household schedule number: 109
Line: 7
Roll: CSSCT1871_129
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Spence 37
Margaret Spence 36
Mary Spence 14
Alexander Spence 11
John Spence 8
William Spence 5
Jane Spence 3

1881

Name: Edward Mcadam
Age: ??8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Mary Cullin Mcadam
Gender: Male
Where born: Campsie, Stirlingshire
Registration Number: 644/1
Registration district: Bridgeton
Civil parish: Glasgow Barony
County: Lanarkshire
Occupation: Edging Stone Keeper
ED: 23
Household schedule number: 48
Line: 16
Roll: cssct1881_215
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Mcadam ??8
Mary Cullin Mcadam 48 (Cullin is her maiden surname) b. Denny
Janet Mcadam 17 <<<<<< Printfield Worker
Robert Mcadam 15
Edward Mcadam 14
James Mcadam 12
Andrew Mcadam 7
Peter Mcadam 4
Helen Brown 83 Grandmother, b. Aberdeen

1871

Name: Janet Mcadam
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relationship: Daur (Daughter)
Father's Name: Edwd Mcadam
Mother's Name: Mary Mcadam
Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/3
Registration district: Bridgeton
Civil parish: Glasgow Bridgeton
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 93 Dale Street
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 124
Household schedule number: 108
Line: 24
Roll: CSSCT1871_130
Household Members: Name Age
Edwd Mcadam 38
Mary Mcadam 38
John C Mcadam 17
Mary Mcadam 14
Marion Mcadam 9
Janet Mcadam 7
Mcadam 5
Edwd Mcadam 4
James Mcadam 2
Eliza Mcadam 5mo

1861

Name: Edward Mcadam
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Mary Mcadam
Gender: Male
Where born: Campsie, Stirlingshire
Registration Number: 644/3
Registration district: Bridgeton
Civil parish: Glasgow Calton
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Glengary Land
Occupation: Stone Keeper
ED: 99
Household schedule number: 43
Line: 1
Roll: CSSCT1861_101
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Mcadam 28
Mary Mcadam 28
John C Mcadam 7
Mary M Mcadam 4


????
1851

Name: Mary Cullens
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: John Cullens
Mother's Name: Helen Cullens
Gender: Female
Where born: Denny, Stirling
Parish Number: 476
Civil parish: Denny
Town: Denny
County: Stirlingshire
Address: Broad St North Side
Occupation: Employed At Printfield
ED: 1
Page: 16 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 69
Line: 4
Roll: CSSCT1851_99
Household Members: Name Age
John Cullens 45 Labourer, b. Glasgow
Helen Cullens 30 b. Aberdeen
Marion Cullens 21
Mary Cullens 18
George Cullens 16
Helen Cullens 14
Andrew Cullens 10
Robert Henderson 9 Mo

1841

Name: Mary Cullenes
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Gender: Female
Where born: Stirlingshire, Scotland

Civil parish: Denny
County: Stirlingshire
Address: Lanes Off The Broad St
Parish Number: 476
Household Members: Name Age
John Cullenes 40
Helen Cullenes 40
Marson Cullenes 12
James Cullenes 10
Mary Cullenes 8
George Cullenes 6
Andrew Cullenes 1

???

1851

Name: Edward McAdam
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relationship: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Campsie, Stirlings
Parish Number: 478
Civil parish: Dunipace
Town: Herbertshire
County: Stirlingshire
Address: Cotton Shop
Occupation: Machine Fenter
ED: 3
Page: 24 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 96
Line: 8
Roll: CSSCT1851_99
Household Members: Name Age
Margaret Whittaker 68
Daniel Whittaker 31
Edward McAdam 18
Mary McAdam 22 b. Rutherglen

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 4 Sep 2012 11:42

1841 - mistranscribed on Freecen as Spencer but Spence on Ancestry

Piece: SCT1841/561 Place: Eaglesham -Renfrewshire Enumeration District: 6
Civil Parish: Eaglesham Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 6 Page: 12
Address: Eaglesham, Polnoon St


Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks

SPENCER William M 63 Cotton Hand Loom Weaver Ireland
SPENCER Marion F 60 Outside Census County (1841)
SPENCER Mary F 15 Cotton Yarn Reeler Renfrewshire
SPENCER William M 10 Cotton Spinner Piecer Renfrewshire
SPENCER Alexander M 7 Renfrewshire
CURRIE Marion F 9 Renfrewshire

Philip

Philip Report 4 Sep 2012 15:30

agnes welsh brown was born in the rotten row maternity hospital 05/08/1932
janet mcadam brown was born adrishaig 01/07/1928
alexander spence brown born adrishaig 15/03/1927
albert mcgee brown born ardrishaig 09/02/1925
john spence brown born ardrishaig 07/10/1923
thomas brown born ardrishaig 04/11/1919

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 4 Sep 2012 19:00

So did you have all the census records posted above please Philip?

If so, I am not sure what information you are seeking about Jessie as you seem to have the records for all her children and her death.

Are you looking for information on your wife's cousins or Jessie's siblings? If so you need to use Scotlandspeople (a pay to view site).

Philip

Philip Report 7 Sep 2012 21:29

thanx for all your help :-D :-D :-D :-D