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Hi everyone,

I have hit a blank wall. I was speaking to my uncle the other day about my grandmother x3 called jane lyon nee neill who married john lyon in 1906. My uncle told me she was irish and i checked the records and this information tallied up. I ordered her married certificate and it says her father was called Samuel Neill who is deceased and was a journey man. I that tried numerous forums and irish genealogy sites and can not find anything on him. I have also checked uk based sites and nothing comes up. My uncle told me that they moved from antrim in ireland and set up home in nottingham. Jane became a maid and that is where she met my grandfather x3. But that is all i know.

Any advice or help would be greatly appreciated.

Ellen

Hi Ellen

Where did they marry and what are the details on the marriage cert...ages/address/witnesess/fathers and their occpupations?

Give us everything on the certificate please

Is that right - 1906 for the marriage date?

x

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Jane Neill
Ireland, Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881
birth: 16 Apr 1880 Down,? Ireland
residence: 1880 Ireland
parents: Samuel Neill,? Ellen Neill Mccaig


name: Jane Neill
gender: Female
birth date: 16 Apr 1880
birthplace: Down, Ireland
father's name: Samuel Neill
mother's name: Ellen Neill Mccaig
indexing project (batch) number: C00688-5
system origin: Ireland-EASy
source film number: 256050

1911???
Name: Jane Lyon
Age in 1911: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Belfast, Ireland
Civil parish: Nottingham
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street Address: 8 Snowton Terrace Old Lenton Nottingham
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Twine Baller
Registration district: Nottingham
Registration District Number: 430
Sub-registration district: Nottingham South West
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Piece: 20491
Household Members:
Name Age
John Lyon 26
Jane Lyon 29
Irene Lyon 5

Marriages Dec 1905
LYON John Nottingham 7b 709
NEILL Jane Nottingham 7b 709

???

Jane Lyon
England and Wales Census, 1911
birth: Belfast Ireland,? County Antrim
census: 1911 Nottingham,? Nottingham,? Nottinghamshire,? England


name: Jane Lyon
event: Census
event date: 1911
gender: Female
age: 29
birthplace: Belfast Ireland, County Antrim
record type: Household
registration district: Nottingham
sub-district: Nottingham South West
parish: Nottingham
county: Nottinghamshire

A sibling, if birth above is correct, but this is County Down and NOT Antrim ? :-

Ireland, Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881," Hugh Samuel Neill, 1878
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name: Hugh Samuel Neill
gender: Male
baptism/christening date:
baptism/christening place:
birth date: 07 Mar 1878
birthplace: Down, Down, Ireland

father's name: Samuel Neill
mother's name: Ellen Neill Mckaig

indexing project (batch) number: C00574-0
system origin: Ireland-EASy
source film number: 255997
reference number: v 1-1 p 417

Source Citation
"Ireland, Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FG67-J5J : accessed 30 Aug 2012), Hugh Samuel Neill, 07 Mar 1878; citing reference v 1-1 p 417, FHL microfilm 255997.

If the origin was Antrim, I would post in the rootsweb mailing list
http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NIR/NIR-ANTRIM.html

Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958 about Jane Neill
Name: Jane Neill
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1880
Registration district: Belfast
Birth Country: Ireland
Volume: 1
Page: 423
FHL Film Number: 101057

According to the 1911 that Jonesey posted, John was born in London and working for the railway


1891 England Census
Name: John H Lyon
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Frederick H Lyon
Mother's Name: Emily Lyon
Gender: Male
Where born: City, London, England

Civil parish: Lenton
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity Lenton
Town: Nottingham
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Registration district: Nottingham
Sub-registration district: Nottingham South West
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2681
Folio: 28
Page Number: 8
Household Members: Name Age
Frederick H Lyon 35
Emily Lyon 34
Annie Lyon 13
Emily Lyon 11
Fredth W Lyon 8
John H Lyon 6
Elizabeth Lyon 3
Alice Lyon 1




1901 England Census
Name: John Lyon
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Frederick Lyon
Mother's Name: Emily Lyon
Gender: Male
Where born: London, England

Civil parish: Nottingham
Ecclesiastical parish: Lenton Holy Trinity
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street Address: 10 Highfield Road

Registration district: Nottingham
Sub-registration district: Nottingham South West
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 210
Piece: 3164
Folio: 46
Page Number: 35
Household Members: Name Age
Frederick Lyon 45 <<Railway Stores Clerk
Emily Lyon 45
Annie Lyon 23
Emily Lyon 21
Frederick Lyon 18
John Lyon 16 <<<<<<<<<Railway Stores Clerk
Lessie Lyon 13
Alice Lyon 11
Alfred Lyon 8
Louisa Lyon 6
Gertrude Lyon 4
Agnes Lyon 3
George Lyon 1


We really need you to come back with the details from the marriage certificate please

x

As her birth registration in Belfast has been found, you could send for her birth record, and you could post in http://www.belfastforum.co.uk/index.php too

Happy hunting :)

As she was born before Partition, you can order her birth cert on-line. This site gives details:

http://www.groireland.ie/fees.htm

Samuel Neill married Ellen McKaig 27th April 1877 in Saint Patricks Ballymacarrett Church of Ireland, Knockbreda Belfast Co Down
Samuel father's a Samuel
Ellen's father's a William