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Astra

Astra Report 28 Aug 2012 06:44

Of course she wasn't. Where was my brain! I will delete.

Andrew

Andrew Report 27 Aug 2012 17:39

But Annie wasn't Roberts in 1922....

Andy

Christina(Lancashire)

Christina(Lancashire) Report 27 Aug 2012 16:13

A possible for Annie.....


parents: Rhodes Roberts,? Ann
name: Annie Roberts
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 12 Dec 1876
baptism/christening place: Braunston, Northampton, England
father's name: Rhodes Roberts
mother's name: Ann
indexing project (batch) number: I00624-6
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 6126809


Living in Warwick in 1881.....

1881 England Census
Name: Annie Roberts
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Rhodes Roberts
Mother's Name: Ann Roberts
Gender: Female
Where born: Banbury, Oxfordshire, England

Civil parish: Warwick St Nicholas
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address: 38 Pickard Street

Registration district: Warwick
Sub-registration district: Warwick
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3090
Folio: 36
Page Number: 5
Household Members: Name Age
Rhodes Roberts 42 .....Boat Builder.....Banbury, Oxfordshire
Ann Roberts 43
Louisa Roberts 12
Harry Roberts 6
Annie Roberts 4
Alfred Roberts 1

They are all listed as born in Banbury.



And living in Aston in 1891....

1891 England Census
about Annie Roberts
Name: Annie Roberts
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Braunston, Northamptonshire, England

Civil parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter and St Paul
Town: Aston
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Aston Manor
ED, institution, or vessel: 40
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2434
Folio: 43
Page Number: 42
Household Members: Name Age
Harry Kidner 34
Alice M Kidner 32
Dorothy A Kidner 4
Gladys W Kidner 3/12
Annie Roberts 14


But you will need her marriage certificate to verify her father's name.

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 27 Aug 2012 16:02

No luck with Annie either. These 2 are a bit troublesome aren't they!
Jan

Andrew

Andrew Report 27 Aug 2012 16:00

Annie died 1963

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page

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Deaths Mar 1963 (77%)
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MESSER ANNIE L 85 BIRMINGHAM 9C 567


Andy

Andrew

Andrew Report 27 Aug 2012 15:56

Are you sure aboout year of death?

Probate to Baden Messer, so agrees correct family from 1911



England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
about John Henry Messer
Name: John Henry Messer
Probate Date: 17 Jan 1942
Death Date: 14 Dec 1941
Death Place: Birmingham, England
Registry: Birmingham, England


Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page

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Deaths Dec 1941 (>99%)
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Messer John H 63 Birmingham 6d 201


So born 1879

Andy

Gaynor

Gaynor Report 27 Aug 2012 15:54

Thanks folks

I thought at messer was an unusal name I would hve found this a bit easier - bur shold give me something to go on until I get the marraige cert.

Doing this family tree as a favour for someone.

Gaynor

Gee

Gee Report 27 Aug 2012 15:51

Marriages Mar 1899 (>99%)
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Messer John Henry Aston 6d 276
Roberts Annie Aston 6d 276
Rudd Sarah Emily Aston 6d 276
Warren Benjamin Aston 6d 276

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 27 Aug 2012 15:48

I think I would get it. Just wondered if the above Ann re-married, as having a job finding them 1891:

Name: John Messer
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1887
Age at Death: 33
Registration district: Birmingham
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 75

Marriages Mar 1894 (>99%)
Bartlam John William Aston 6d 285
Messer Ann Aston 6d 285
Newman Clara Aston 6d 285
Vaughan James Aston 6d 285

Gaynor

Gaynor Report 27 Aug 2012 15:42

Hi

No, that was going to be my next stage - I just wanted to see if I missed anything in the meantime.

Astra

Astra Report 27 Aug 2012 15:42

Henry gives 1879 as his birthdate on the 1911 so this may be apossible

MESSER, John Head Married M 26 1855 General Labourer
Northleach, Gloucestershire VIEW
MESSER, Ann Wife Married F 24 1857
Minworth, Warwickshire VIEW
MESSER, Mabel Daughter Single F 3 1878
Walsall, Staffordshire VIEW
>>MESSER, Harry Son Single M 2 1879
Aston, Warwickshire VIEW
MESSER, Jane Daughter Single F 0 1881
Aston, Warwickshire VIEW

Piece: 3033 Folio: 100 Page: 22 Registration District: Aston Civil Parish: Aston Municipal Borough: Address: 4, Maria Place, Scholefield St, Aston County: Warwickshire

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 27 Aug 2012 15:42

Bit far out age-wise maybe:


1881 England Census

Name: Harry Messer
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Messer
Mother's Name: Ann Messer
Gender: Male
Where born: Aston, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Aston
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address: 4 Maria Place Scholefield St

Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Duddeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 42

John Messer 26
Ann Messer 24
Mabel Messer 3
Harry Messer 2
Jane Messer

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 27 Aug 2012 15:40

Do you have their fathers' names from the marriage cert?
Jan

Gaynor

Gaynor Report 27 Aug 2012 15:30

Lilly Messer born Bham 1904, I am trying to find out more about Lilly’s parents:-

Henry John Messer 1873 in B’ham (died 1963 in Bham) married Annie l Roberts in 1899 Bham, Annie was born in Branston Warwickshire ( now comes under Leicestershire) in 1878.

I can find Henry and Annie on both the 1901 and 1911 census as a married couple as well as their marraige details, but can find now census records or anything else prior to that. Any help welcome……..