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Astra
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28 Aug 2012 06:44 |
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Of course she wasn't. Where was my brain! I will delete.
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Andrew
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27 Aug 2012 17:39 |
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But Annie wasn't Roberts in 1922....
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Christina(Lancashire)
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27 Aug 2012 16:13 |
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A possible for Annie.....
parents: Rhodes Roberts,? Ann name: Annie Roberts gender: Female baptism/christening date: 12 Dec 1876 baptism/christening place: Braunston, Northampton, England father's name: Rhodes Roberts mother's name: Ann indexing project (batch) number: I00624-6 system origin: England-EASy source film number: 6126809
Living in Warwick in 1881.....
1881 England Census Name: Annie Roberts Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Rhodes Roberts Mother's Name: Ann Roberts Gender: Female Where born: Banbury, Oxfordshire, England Civil parish: Warwick St Nicholas County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street Address: 38 Pickard Street Registration district: Warwick Sub-registration district: Warwick ED, institution, or vessel: 27 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3090 Folio: 36 Page Number: 5 Household Members: Name Age Rhodes Roberts 42 .....Boat Builder.....Banbury, Oxfordshire Ann Roberts 43 Louisa Roberts 12 Harry Roberts 6 Annie Roberts 4 Alfred Roberts 1
They are all listed as born in Banbury.
And living in Aston in 1891....
1891 England Census about Annie Roberts Name: Annie Roberts Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Braunston, Northamptonshire, England Civil parish: Aston Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter and St Paul Town: Aston County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Registration district: Aston Sub-registration district: Aston Manor ED, institution, or vessel: 40 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2434 Folio: 43 Page Number: 42 Household Members: Name Age Harry Kidner 34 Alice M Kidner 32 Dorothy A Kidner 4 Gladys W Kidner 3/12 Annie Roberts 14
But you will need her marriage certificate to verify her father's name.
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brummiejan
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27 Aug 2012 16:02 |
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No luck with Annie either. These 2 are a bit troublesome aren't they! Jan
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Andrew
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27 Aug 2012 16:00 |
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Annie died 1963
Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deaths Mar 1963 (77%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MESSER ANNIE L 85 BIRMINGHAM 9C 567
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Andrew
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27 Aug 2012 15:56 |
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Are you sure aboout year of death?
Probate to Baden Messer, so agrees correct family from 1911
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about John Henry Messer Name: John Henry Messer Probate Date: 17 Jan 1942 Death Date: 14 Dec 1941 Death Place: Birmingham, England Registry: Birmingham, England
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deaths Dec 1941 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messer John H 63 Birmingham 6d 201
So born 1879 Andy
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Gaynor
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27 Aug 2012 15:54 |
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Thanks folks
I thought at messer was an unusal name I would hve found this a bit easier - bur shold give me something to go on until I get the marraige cert.
Doing this family tree as a favour for someone.
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27 Aug 2012 15:51 |
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Marriages Mar 1899 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messer John Henry Aston 6d 276 Roberts Annie Aston 6d 276 Rudd Sarah Emily Aston 6d 276 Warren Benjamin Aston 6d 276
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brummiejan
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27 Aug 2012 15:48 |
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I think I would get it. Just wondered if the above Ann re-married, as having a job finding them 1891:
Name: John Messer Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854 Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1887 Age at Death: 33 Registration district: Birmingham Inferred County: Warwickshire Volume: 6d Page: 75
Marriages Mar 1894 (>99%) Bartlam John William Aston 6d 285 Messer Ann Aston 6d 285 Newman Clara Aston 6d 285 Vaughan James Aston 6d 285
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Gaynor
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27 Aug 2012 15:42 |
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Hi
No, that was going to be my next stage - I just wanted to see if I missed anything in the meantime.
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Astra
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27 Aug 2012 15:42 |
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Henry gives 1879 as his birthdate on the 1911 so this may be apossible
MESSER, John Head Married M 26 1855 General Labourer Northleach, Gloucestershire VIEW MESSER, Ann Wife Married F 24 1857 Minworth, Warwickshire VIEW MESSER, Mabel Daughter Single F 3 1878 Walsall, Staffordshire VIEW >>MESSER, Harry Son Single M 2 1879 Aston, Warwickshire VIEW MESSER, Jane Daughter Single F 0 1881 Aston, Warwickshire VIEW
Piece: 3033 Folio: 100 Page: 22 Registration District: Aston Civil Parish: Aston Municipal Borough: Address: 4, Maria Place, Scholefield St, Aston County: Warwickshire
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brummiejan
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27 Aug 2012 15:42 |
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Bit far out age-wise maybe:
1881 England Census
Name: Harry Messer Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879 Relation: Son Father's Name: John Messer Mother's Name: Ann Messer Gender: Male Where born: Aston, Warwickshire, England Civil parish: Aston County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street Address: 4 Maria Place Scholefield St Registration district: Aston Sub-registration district: Duddeston ED, institution, or vessel: 42
John Messer 26 Ann Messer 24 Mabel Messer 3 Harry Messer 2 Jane Messer
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brummiejan
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27 Aug 2012 15:40 |
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Do you have their fathers' names from the marriage cert? Jan
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Gaynor
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27 Aug 2012 15:30 |
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Lilly Messer born Bham 1904, I am trying to find out more about Lilly’s parents:-
Henry John Messer 1873 in B’ham (died 1963 in Bham) married Annie l Roberts in 1899 Bham, Annie was born in Branston Warwickshire ( now comes under Leicestershire) in 1878.
I can find Henry and Annie on both the 1901 and 1911 census as a married couple as well as their marraige details, but can find now census records or anything else prior to that. Any help welcome……..
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