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I checked a re marriage for Ann before I posted her possible death. Its a case of sending for the certs, to check the informant Im afraid

do you think this is the right match?

Marriage: 12 Jan 1802 St Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Robert Hayes - (X), Labourer of Liverpool
Ann Price - (X), Spinster of Liverpool
Witness: Edward Coventry; Thos. Howard
Married by Banns by: John Pulford, A. B., Curate
Register: Marriages 1802 - 1803, Page 162, Entry 16
Source: LDS Film 93839

Yes I didnt think about her marrying again! but I will check the death 1866 first i think with the register office. Yes, i am so pleased about the christenings, It has helped me to find others (unconnected with this) so i am really chuffed! also given me information further back on this line :-D

Thankyou!!! <3

Have you considered Ann may have re-married??

And yes, I think those christenings are connected to the family - quite a useful site glad you're having fun with it!

I cant see Ann on the 1871 census and this is the closest match for a death for her


Deaths Dec 1866
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Parkinson Anne 50 W. Derby 8b 341

Re:death of ann Parkinson (formally heyes) I have searched between 1861-1871on lancashire bmd (liverpool/ormskirk) no joy

Free BMD - first 3 entries have no age attached
Deaths Jun 1861 , Parkinson Anne Ormskirk 8b 409
Deaths Jun 1862 , Parkinson Ann W Derby 8b 310
Deaths Mar 1865 ,PARKINSON Ann Liverpool 8b 137

Deaths Mar 1866
Parkinson Ann 50 Liverpool 8b 181
Parkinson Ann 47 Liverpool 8b 51

Deaths Dec 1866
Parkinson Anne 50 W. Derby 8b 341

Deaths from FMP
NO AGE PROVIDED........
PARKINSON, Ann/Registration district: [?] Liverpool/ Year of registration: 1865
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar/ Volume no: 8B/Page no: 137

PARKINSON, Anne/Registration district: [?] Ormskirk/County: Lancashire
Year of registration: 1861/Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Volume no: 8B/Page no: 409

PARKINSON, Anne/Registration district: [?] West Derby/County: Lancashire
Year of registration: 1866/Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at death:50/Volume no: 8B/Page no: 341

Possible siblings of ann heyes, wife of robert parkinson???

Baptisms: 8 Jul 1802 St Helen, Sefton, Lancashire, England
Jenny Heys - Daughter of Robert Heys & Ann
Abode: Aintree
Register: Baptisms 1783 - 1812, Page 67, Entry 5
Source: LDS Film 1657555

Baptisms: 19 May 1805 St Helen, Sefton, Lancashire, England
Mary Heyes - Daughter of Robert Heyes & Ann
Born: 5 May 1805
Abode: Aintree
Baptised by: Jeremiah Williams, Clerk
Register: Baptisms 1783 - 1812, Page 80, Entry 4
Source: LDS Film 1657555

Baptisms: 23 Aug 1807 St Helen, Sefton, Lancashire, England
Margaret Heyes - Daughter of Robert Heyes & Ann
Born: 6 Aug 1807
Abode: Aintree
Baptised by: Jeremiah Williams, Clerk
Register: Baptisms 1783 - 1812, Page 87, Entry 5
Source: LDS Film 1657555

Baptisms: 17 Dec 1809 St Helen, Sefton, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth Heyes - Daughter of Robert Heyes & Ann
Born: 12 Nov 1809
Abode: Aintree
Baptised by: Jeremiah Williams, Clerk
Register: Baptisms 1783 - 1812, Page 95, Entry 2
Source: LDS Film 1657555

Baptisms: 13 Oct 1811 St Helen, Sefton, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth Heyes - Daughter of Robert Heyes & Ann
Born: 2 Sep 1811
Abode: Aintree
Baptised by: Jeremiah Williams, Clerk
Register: Baptisms 1783 - 1812, Page 101, Entry 4
Source: LDS Film 1657555

Baptisms: 1 May 1814 St Helen, Sefton, Lancashire, England
Robert Heys - S of Robert Heys & Ann
Abode: Aintree
Occupation: Labourer
Baptised by: Thos. Johnson Curate
Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1856, Page 7, Entry 55
Source: LDS Film 1657555

Baptisms: 25 Aug 1816 St Helen, Sefton, Lancashire, England
Ann Hayes - D of Robert Hayes & Ann
Abode: Aintree
Occupation: Labourer
Baptised by: Thos. Johnson Curate
Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1856, Page 16, Entry 126
Source: LDS Film 1657555

Baptisms: 26 Sep 1819 St Helen, Sefton, Lancashire, England
Ellen Hayes - D of Robert Hayes & Ann
Abode: Aintree
Occupation: Labourer
Baptised by: James Hoggins, Curate
Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1856, Page 30, Entry 234
Source: LDS Film 1657555

Baptisms: 10 Jun 1821 St Helen, Sefton, Lancashire, England
Martha Heyes - D of Robert Heyes & Ann
Abode: Aintree
Occupation: Labourer
Baptised by: James Hoggins, Curate
Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1856, Page 39, Entry 308
Source: LDS Film 1657555

Baptisms: 20 Jul 1823 St Helen, Sefton, Lancashire, England
Mary Heyes - D of Robert Heyes & Ann
Abode: Aintree
Occupation: Labourer
Baptised by: James Hoggins, Curate
Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1856, Page 48, Entry 381
Source: LDS Film 1657555

I found these litherland connections around the same time as Roberts birth, held at the same church, do you agree these might be his siblings?

Baptisms: 18 Sep 1808 St Helen, Sefton, Lancashire, England
Margaret Parkinson - Daughter of John Parkinson & Ellen
Born: 29 Aug 1808
Abode: Litherland
Baptised by: Jeremiah Williams, Clerk
Register: Baptisms 1783 - 1812, Page 90, Entry 9
Source: LDS Film 1657555

Baptisms: 6 May 1810 St Helen, Sefton, Lancashire, England
Thomas Parkinson - Son of John Parkinson & Ellen
Born: 17 Apr 1810
Abode: Litherland
Baptised by: Jeremiah Williams, Clerk
Register: Baptisms 1783 - 1812, Page 96, Entry 5
Source: LDS Film 1657555

Baptisms: 29 Mar 1812 St Helen, Sefton, Lancashire, England
Robert Parkinson - Son of John Parkinson & Ellen
Born: 6 Mar 1812
Abode: Litherland
Baptised by: Jeremiah Williams, Clerk
Register: Baptisms 1783 - 1812, Page 104, Entry 3
Source: LDS Film 1657555

Baptisms: 16 Oct 1814 St Helen, Sefton, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth Parkinson - D of John Parkinson & Ellen
Abode: Litherland
Occupation: Farmer
Baptised by: Thos. Johnson Curate
Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1856, Page 9, Entry 72
Source: LDS Film 1657555

Baptisms: 20 Oct 1816 St Helen, Sefton, Lancashire, England
Sarah Parkinson - D of John Parkinson & Ellen
Abode: Litherland
Occupation: Farmer
Baptised by: Thos. Johnson Curate
Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1856, Page 17, Entry 130
Source: LDS Film 1657555

Hi all,
Gins the death cert OF ROBERT PARKINSON in 1863 looks promising. i dont know why i didnt spot it. Thanks, I will investigate further and also see if I can locate his wife ann parkinson as a widown in the 1871 census before looking again at deaths.

I do have the marriage cert of Robert parkinson and ann heyes in 25th sugust 1839, it shows robert parkinson's father as a labourer called John and Ann Hayes father is called Robert hayes, a labourer. so looking at the parish register website this looks like a match

Baptisms: 29 Mar 1812 St Helen, Sefton, Lancashire, England
Robert Parkinson - Son of John Parkinson & Ellen
Born: 6 Mar 1812
Abode: Litherland
Baptised by: Jeremiah Williams, Clerk
Register: Baptisms 1783 - 1812, Page 104, Entry 3
Source: LDS Film 1657555

AND THIS COULD BE HIS WIFE????

Baptisms: 25 Aug 1816 St Helen, Sefton, Lancashire, England
Ann Hayes - D of Robert Hayes & Ann
Abode: Aintree
Occupation: Labourer
Baptised by: Thos. Johnson Curate
Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1856, Page 16, Entry 126
Source: LDS Film 1657555

Thoughts?

Liverpool, Lancashire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921
Name: Ann Hayes
Age: Full Age
Marriage Date: 25 Aug 1839
Parish: Liverpool St Nicholas
Spouse's Name: Robert Parkinton <<<Labourer
Father's Name: Robert Hayes <<Labourer
Spouse Father's Name: John Parkinton <<Labourer


I'll send you the record by PM

Birth 1859
PARKINSON Mary Litherland South Sefton HAYES LITH/5/346

Looks like the marriage I posted is the right one. You need the marriage certificate to find Roberts father

According to a tree at Ancestry, Robert married this person below


Marriages Sep 1839
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Hayes Ann Liverpool 20 264
Parkinson Robert Liverpool 20 264


Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1839
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
PARKINSON Robert HAYES Ann Liverpool, Our Lady & St. Nicholas & St. Anne Liverpool 2053LP/4


To verify the info a childs birth certificate should give you the mothers maiden name and the marriage certificate (above) should give you the parents of Robert and Ann

Gins posted a death (burial) at 12:40

The baptism looks extremely likely to be correct

I know I said I was looking for census and death to which I would still like some help as nothing is obvious to me. But as I am new to the parish record site, kindly provided by flip, I saw this .... do you think this is my robert? I know his father is John from his marriage cert and he was born in litherland

Baptisms: 29 Mar 1812 St Helen, Sefton, Lancashire, England
Robert Parkinson - Son of John Parkinson & Ellen
Born: 6 Mar 1812
Abode: Litherland
Baptised by: Jeremiah Williams, Clerk
Register: Baptisms 1783 - 1812, Page 104, Entry 3
Source: LDS Film 1657555

Lancashire, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1986
Name: Robert Parkinson
Birth Year: abt 1813
Burial Age: 50
Burial Date: 4 Aug 1863
Burial Parish: Sefton
Reference Number: Pr 2882/14

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/

It's parish records, but not complete, it's free

Hi Flip, yes these are his children for sure. Havent heard of Lancashire opc. what is opc? is it a free database I can access? can you supply contacts or do you have to subscribe? I will add this as I dont have this information and thanks for supplying.

Best wishes, Lynn

This is from lancashire opc,

Baptisms: 12 Mar 1843 St Thomas, Seaforth, Lancashire, England
Ellen Parkinson - Daugr. of Robert Parkinson & Ann
Born: 6 Feb 1843
Abode: Orrell
Occupation: Labourer
Baptised by: W. Rawson
Register: Baptisms 1839 - 1854, Page 11, Entry 74
Source: LDS Film 1546064

Baptisms: 12 Sep 1841 St Helen, Sefton, Lancashire, England
Mary Parkinson - D of Robert Parkinson & Ann
Abode: Orrell
Occupation: Husbandman
Baptised by: J. Clark, Curate
Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1856, Page 133, Entry 1061
Source: LDS Film 1657555