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Charles Parton and Elizabeth - ?Kerry or ? Kelly

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Eunice

Eunice Report 25 Aug 2012 23:27

Thanks Kath, I will order that xx
:-) :-)

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 24 Aug 2012 23:00

I think this is Priscilla's birth (the certificate would give her mother's maiden name):-


Name: PARTON, Priscilla
Registration district: Wellington (Shropshire)
County: Shropshire
Year of registration: 1839
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 18
Page no: 203

I know this birth is in Shropshire and not Staffordshire which is given as her birthplace in the 1851 census. However in the 1871 census I think this is Priscilla after she married (with her father Charles living with her) and she gives her birthplace as Shropshire:-

1871 census transcription details for: Edensor Road, Stoke Upon Trent, Longton

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10
Piece: 2877
Folio: 121
Page: 35
Reg. District: Stoke upon Trent
Sub District: Longton
Parish: Stoke upon Trent
Enum. District: 25
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough: Longton

Address: Edensor Road, Stoke Upon Trent, Longton
County: Staffordshire

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

GARBATT, Thomas Head M 34 1837 Shropshire
GARBATT, Priscilla Wife F 32 1839 Shropshire
GARBATT, Henry Son M 12 1859 Staffordshire
GARBATT, Thomas Son M 9 1862 Staffordshire
GARBATT, George Son M 3 1868 Staffordshire
GARBATT, Mary Ann Daughter F 0 1871 Staffordshire
PARTON, Charles Father-In-Law M 60 1811 Staffordshire

In the 1881 census she gives Shropshire again as her birthplace but in the 1891 census she is back to saying Longton, Staffordshire.

This looks like Priscilla's death:-

Name: GARBETT, Priscilla
Registration district: Stoke on Trent
County: Staffordshire
Year of registration: 1898
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at death: 58
Volume no: 6B
Page no: 176

Kath. x

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Aug 2012 22:51

1841 England Census
Name: Chas Parton
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813
Gender: Male
Where born: Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Stoke Upon Trent
Hundred: North Pirehill
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Registration district: Stoke upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Lane End
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 991
Book: 4
Folio: 54
Page Number: 20
Household Members:
Name Age
Chas Parton 28
Elizabeth Parton 28
Mary Ann Parton 11
Caroline Parton 6
Henry Parton 4
Pauila Parton 2

Eunice

Eunice Report 24 Aug 2012 22:50

Typical. They were an 'interesting family! lol :-D

Eunice

Eunice Report 24 Aug 2012 22:49

Reggie, Caroline was my gt grandmother :-)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Aug 2012 22:49

The child William was baptised in Church.........................

The couple's daughter was baptised in Chapel

I doubt very much that William is connected to this family

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 24 Aug 2012 22:48

On the 1841 census the child who you thought was Paula is Priscilla according to Findmypast.

Kath. x

Eunice

Eunice Report 24 Aug 2012 22:47

Thanks Kath. It is this unmarried brother in law John Kelly thats intriguing ..... and now we have possible a Scalley??!! I am presuming young Thos Degg is the cild of one of Chas. sisters?! x

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Aug 2012 22:46

One of the children from the census

name: Caroline Parton
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 17 May 1835
baptism/christening place: HIGH STREET CHAPEL OR LOWER CHAPEL WESLEYAN,LONGTON,STAFFORD,ENGLAND
birth date: 30 Apr 1835
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Charles Parton
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Elizabeth
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C08440-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 0825393 (RG4 3298)

Eunice

Eunice Report 24 Aug 2012 22:43

oh thats interesting! Scalley???? I have never heard of that name before! on the 1851 census Chas. and Eliz have children Henry, mary ann, Pricilla and John Kelly, brother in law plus a 5 yr old child, nephew, surname Degg. On the 1841 census is another child Paula.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 24 Aug 2012 22:40

For reference:-

1851 census transcription details for: Chancery Lane, Stoke Upon Trent, Longton

National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 2007
Folio: 317
Page: 43
Reg. District: Stoke upon Trent
Sub District: Longton
Parish: Stoke upon Trent
Enum. District: 12
Ecclesiastical District: Rectory of Longton
City/Municipal Borough: Stoke upon Trent

Address: Chancery Lane, Stoke Upon Trent, Longton
County: Staffordshire

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born

PARTON, Charles Head Married M 37 1814 Potter Packer
Fenton, Staffordshire
PARTON, Elizabeth Wife Married F 37 1814
Fenton, Staffordshire
PARTON, Mary Ann Daughter Unmarried F 21 1830 Potter Painter
Fenton, Staffordshire
PARTON, Caroline Daughter F 15 1836 Potter Painter
Fenton, Staffordshire
PARTON, Henry Son M 14 1837 Potter Ovenboy
Fenton, Staffordshire
PARTON, Priscilla Daughter F 11 1840 Potter Handle Maker
Fenton, Staffordshire
DEGG, Thomas Nephew M 5 1846
Fenton, Staffordshire
KELLY, John Brother-In-Law Unmarried M 40 1811 Potter Packer
Fenton, Staffordshire

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 24 Aug 2012 22:39

Since the first daughter on the census seems to be born 1829/1830 you will need parish records to find the marriage as it would have been before civil registration began.

Kath. x

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Aug 2012 22:36

Have you tried to find one yourself on freebmd?

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

.................or on the IGI, if you think it was pre-1837

What year is the 'early' census?

Did the couple have children?

Abby

Abby Report 24 Aug 2012 22:36

????

Name: William Parton
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 26 Aug 1841
Baptism/Christening Place: St. Gregory, Longton, Stafford, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Charles Parton
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Scalley
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I04294-6
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1999393
Reference Number: item 8-10

Eunice

Eunice Report 24 Aug 2012 22:22

Charles was born c 1813 in Staffordshire, and lived there all his life. I am trying to find WHEN he and Eliz. married. The ? over her surname is because my cousin thought so! But on an early census, living with the couple is a John KELLY, who is Brother in Law. Cab anyone find their wedding please?