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John & Sarah Tredinnick C>1836 Cornwall

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MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 24 Aug 2012 09:06

There is a tree on Ancestry which purports to have details of John and his children in the USA - I'm a bit sceptical about some of the info on there. They have no wife listed and have a child attached who was born in Pennsylvania in 1858.

This is the 1880 US census they have attached:

Name: John Tradinick
Age: 45
Birth Year: abt 1835
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Home in 1880: Wilkes Barre, Luzerne, Pennsylvania
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
Marital Status: Married
Father's Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Mother's Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Neighbors:

Occupation: Miner
Cannot read/write:
Blind:
Deaf and dumb:
Otherwise disabled:
Idiotic or insane:

Household Members:
Name Age
John Tradinick 45 - married, no wife listed.
William Tradinick 22
Edward Tradinick 18
James Tradinick 11
Charles Tradinick 6
Rebecca Tradinick 4
Joseph Tradinick 3
Joseph Hughes 23 son-in-law
Mary Hughes 17 daughter
Sarah Hughes 4m

Everyone born Pennsylvania. I'm not convinced this is the right family - although John and Edward's ages do match what we know.

EDIT: I realised I'd missed "Wm" off of the US arrival I posted above. Now I'm starting to come round to thinking this may be correct after all.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 24 Aug 2012 09:00

Closest match I can find for John:

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: John Tradenick, occupation miner
Arrival Date: 6 Jul 1865
Birth Year: abt 1837
Age: 28
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/RaceĀ­/Nationality: German
Place of Origin: Germany
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States
Ship Name: Edinburgh

I have doubts about the German nationality, I think they've just grouped a load of people as German because that's where they sailed from. The person next to him on the list is a P Bennett who has also been listed as German.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 24 Aug 2012 08:48

A possible:

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Sarah Tredinnick
Arrival Date: 26 Mar 1867
Birth Year: abt 1837
Age: 30
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/RaceĀ­/Nationality: English
Place of Origin: England
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States
Ship Name: Palmyra

She's travelling with Wm 9, James 7, Stephen 5, Edward 4 and Mary 7 (I think Mary may be 7 months as she's listed as infant whereas the others are listed as child)

The two eldest children match the 1861 census.

EDIT: Just realised I'd missed off Wm.

** Ancestry are offering free access to immigration records up to 25/08/2012, so you can have a look at this.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 24 Aug 2012 00:45

pm from Shadwell:

"Hi Marie Celeste,
Many thanks for your response's re: John & Sarah Tredinnick.
My main contact would is researching the above is a xxxxx and she has contacted me via Ancestry.co.uk. All the details on your lists confirm that we are dealing with the same family.
Xxxxx is trying to find out what & where they went to after the 1861 census, possible places could be America or Australia as their is family in both these country's. Any further assistance you can supply will be fully appreciated.
Best regards ken "

Ken - there are a few of us who've added info on here!

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 23 Aug 2012 16:34

Edward Cruet
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
spouse: Mary
child: John Cruet


name: John Cruet
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 31 Mar 1833
baptism/christening place: MENHENIOT,CORNWALL,ENGLAND
father's name: Edward Cruet
mother's name: Mary
indexing project (batch) number: C05291-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 916950

Edward Cruet
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
spouse: Mary
child: William Cruet


name: William Cruet
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 29 Jan 1826
baptism/christening place: MENHENIOT,CORNWALL,ENGLAND
father's name: Edward Cruet
mother's name: Mary
indexing project (batch) number: C05291-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 916950

Edward Cruet
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
spouse: Mary
child: Sarah Cruet


name: Sarah Cruet
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 08 Mar 1836
baptism/christening place: MENHENIOT,CORNWALL,ENGLAND
father's name: Edward Cruet
mother's name: Mary
indexing project (batch) number: C05291-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 916950

Edward Cruet
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
spouse: Mary
child: Joseph Cruet


name: Joseph Cruet
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 10 Jul 1831
baptism/christening place: MENHENIOT,CORNWALL,ENGLAND
father's name: Edward Cruet
mother's name: Mary
indexing project (batch) number: C05291-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 916950

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 23 Aug 2012 16:32

Edward Crewett
England and Wales Census, 1851
birth: Menheniot
census: 1851 England


name: Edward Crewett
age: 12
gender: M
birthplace: Menheniot
relationship to head of household: Son
record type: Household

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 23 Aug 2012 16:31

Edward Cruett
England and Wales Census, 1841
birth: 1796 Cornwall
census: 1841 Menheniot,? Cornwall,? England


name: Edward Cruett
event: Census
event date: 1841
gender: Male
age: 45
birthplace: Cornwall
record type: Household
registration district: Liskeard
sub-district: Liskeard
civil parish: Menheniot
county: Cornwall

Edward Cruett
England and Wales Census, 1841
birth: 1839 Cornwall
census: 1841 Menheniot,? Cornwall,? England


name: Edward Cruett
event: Census
event date: 1841
gender: Male
age: 2
birthplace: Cornwall
record type: Household
registration district: Liskeard
sub-district: Liskeard
civil parish: Menheniot
county: Cornwall

Abby

Abby Report 23 Aug 2012 15:48

1865 Charlestown Edward TREDINNICK John Sarah
1865 Charlestown James TREDINNICK John Sarah
1865 Charlestown Louisa TREDINNICK John Sarah
1865 Charlestown Mary Elizabeth TREDINNICK John Sarah
1865 Charlestown Stephen John TREDINNICK John Sarah
1865 Charlestown William Cruett TREDINNICK John Sarah

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 23 Aug 2012 15:27

Just posting that 1861 as a reference point to work from:

TREDENNICK, John Head Married M 25 1836 Tin Miner St Agnes, Cornwall
TREDENNICK, Sarah Wife Married F 25 1836 Tin Miners Wife Menheniot, Cornwall
TREDENNICK, James Son Unmarried M 2 1859 Menheniot, Cornwall
TREDENNICK, Stephen J Son M 0 (6M) 1861 St Austell, Cornwall

Piece: 1548 Folio: 104 Page: 17
Registration District: St Austell
Civil Parish: St Austell

Address: Union Road, St Austell County: Cornwall

EDIT: Older son William b1858 appears to be with his grandparents Stephen & Rebecca Tredinnick.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 23 Aug 2012 15:03

Sarah Cruett
England and Wales Census, 1841
birth: 1836 Cornwall
census: 1841 Menheniot,? Cornwall,? England


name: Sarah Cruett
event: Census
event date: 1841
gender: Female
age: 5
birthplace: Cornwall
record type: Household
registration district: Liskeard
sub-district: Liskeard
civil parish: Menheniot
county: Cornwall

Sarah Cruet
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 08 Mar 1836 MENHENIOT,?CORNWALL,?ENGLAND
parents: Edward Cruet,? Mary


name: Sarah Cruet
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 08 Mar 1836
baptism/christening place: MENHENIOT,CORNWALL,ENGLAND
father's name: Edward Cruet
mother's name: Mary
indexing project (batch) number: C05291-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 916950

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 23 Aug 2012 15:02

???

Stephen Tredinnick
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 18 Jul 1813 SAINT AGNES NEAR TRURO,?CORNWALL,?ENGLAND
parents: James Tredinnick,? Nancy


name: Stephen Tredinnick
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 18 Jul 1813
baptism/christening place: SAINT AGNES NEAR TRURO,CORNWALL,ENGLAND
father's name: James Tredinnick
mother's name: Nancy
indexing project (batch) number: C05306-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 916880, 916881

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 23 Aug 2012 14:59

???

John Tredinnick
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 18 Jan 1835 SAINT AGNES NEAR TRURO,?CORNWALL,?ENGLAND
parents: James Tredinnick,? Mary


name: John Tredinnick
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 18 Jan 1835
baptism/christening place: SAINT AGNES NEAR TRURO,CORNWALL,ENGLAND
father's name: James Tredinnick
mother's name: Mary
indexing project (batch) number: C05306-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 916880, 916881

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 23 Aug 2012 14:59

???

John Tredinnick
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 28 Jul 1836 SAINT AGNES NEAR TRURO,?CORNWALL,?ENGLAND
parents: Stephen Tredinnick,? Rebecca


name: John Tredinnick
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 28 Jul 1836
baptism/christening place: SAINT AGNES NEAR TRURO,CORNWALL,ENGLAND
father's name: Stephen Tredinnick
mother's name: Rebecca
indexing project (batch) number: C05306-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 916880, 916881

Abby

Abby Report 23 Aug 2012 14:56

Day Month 08-Mar
Year 1836
Parish Or Reg District Menheniot
Forename Sarah
Surname CRUET
Sex dau
Father Forename Edward
Mother Forename Mary
Residence Polpink
Father Rank Profession labourer
Notes private recvd into church 27-Mar 1836
Transcriber Notes

Abby

Abby Report 23 Aug 2012 14:50

Day Month 27-Sep
Year 1857
Parish Or Reg District Tideford
Groom Fn John
Groom Sn TREDINNICK
Groom Age full
Groom Residence Coldrennick
Groom Condition bachelor
Groom Rank Profession miner
Groom Signed / Marked (S/M) M
Groom Father Name Stephen
Groom Father Rank Profession miner
Bride Fn Sarah
Bride Sn CRUETT
Bride Age full
Bride Residence Coldrenick
Bride Condition spinster
Bride Rank Profession
Bride Signed / Marked (S/M) S
Bride Father Name Edward
Bride Father Rank Profession labourer
Banns / Licence (B/L) B
Witness Fn1 Edward
Witness Sn1 CRUETT
Witness Fn2 James
Witness Sn2 SAWELL

Shatwell

Shatwell Report 23 Aug 2012 14:44

Any info on the above Born in Corwall Sy.Agnes, 1836 Married in St.Germaines 1857
Shown on 1861 census then no further info