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Finding Relatives in Wales

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Jayne

Jayne Report 23 Aug 2012 12:07

I have an Edward Owen Lloyd b c1873 Denbigh, Denbighshire on my tree, with parents John Lloyd c1834 Meifod Denbighshire and Hannah b. c1839 Denbighshire.
I have Edward visiting relatives - but after that, he disappears in the world of the Lloyds!

Would really appreciate any help with this, please?
Many Thanks,
Jayne

Maddie

Maddie Report 23 Aug 2012 12:11

could this be a possibilty
1901
LLOYD, Edward Owen Pupil Single M 27 1874 Chair Caner
Blind Denbigh, Denbighshire VIEW

Piece: 3421

Folio: 61

Page: 3

Registration District: Liverpool

Civil Parish: Liverpool

Municipal Borough:

Address: Liverpool

County: Lancashire

Helen

Helen Report 23 Aug 2012 12:11

1901 England Census about Edward Owen Lloyd
Name: Edward Owen Lloyd
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Pupil
Gender: Male
Where born: Denbigh, Denbighshire, Wales
Civil parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: Liverpool St Luke
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: Mount Pleasant
ED, institution, or vessel: Asylum for the Blind
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Piece: 3421
Folio: 61
Page Number: 3

Jayne

Jayne Report 23 Aug 2012 12:17

Hi Maddie and Helen,
Thanks for the info - but the Edward Lloyd I have wasn't blind as far as I have been told. Could this be another Edward Owen?
Jayne

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 23 Aug 2012 12:22

Hi Jayne, just my way of thinking - but if no-one knew what happened to him, how would they know if he was blind or not? (Or do you have some info on his later life?)

PS, your thread posted twice - could you delete the other one in case people start replying on both? (Gets a bit confusing!) :-)

Jayne

Jayne Report 23 Aug 2012 12:25

Hi Marie-Celeste,
Sorry about that - did try to get the other one deleted, but will try again.
As for Edward Owen Lloyd, he (we were told) that he actually became a grandfather and was born in 1873
Jayne

Maddie

Maddie Report 23 Aug 2012 12:26

Civil registration event: Birth
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Name: LLOYD, Edward Owen

Registration district: [?] St. Asaph

County: Denbighshire

Year of registration: 1873

Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar

Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3

Volume no:[?]11B

Page no:[?]380

Jayne

Jayne Report 23 Aug 2012 12:30

Hi Maddie,
The date looks spot on and it is in Denbighshire - but is there any other information about him, please?
Thanks
Jayne

Andrew

Andrew Report 23 Aug 2012 12:32

??

Deaths Dec 1902 (>99%)
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Lloyd Edward Owen 28 Chester 8a 254


Andy

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 23 Aug 2012 12:39

Year of births on the census are aproximate year and not factual

They are often out by a year or two and have known to be out by as much as 5 years

Roy

Jayne

Jayne Report 23 Aug 2012 12:40

Hi Andy

I don't think this is the right one, I'm afraid ...

Jayne

Jayne

Jayne Report 23 Aug 2012 12:54

Hi Folks,

Can you perhaps confirm the names of the parents to see if it tallies with my tree please?

Thanks

Jayne

Maddie

Maddie Report 23 Aug 2012 12:57

1881 ??????????

1881 England Census about Edward O. Lloyd
Name: Edward O. Lloyd
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Denbighshire, Wales

Civil parish: Oswestry Town
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street Address: Church Street
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Oswestry
Sub-registration district: Oswestry
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2658
Folio: 31
Page Number: 37
Household Members:
Name Age
John Lloyd 47
Hannah Lloyd 42
Edward O. Lloyd 8
John Jones 29
Margaret Morris 22

Maddie

Maddie Report 23 Aug 2012 12:59

it appears he is the nephew of John and Hannah
fmp version 1881

LLOYD, John Head Married M 47 1834 Inn Keeper
Meifod, Denbighshire, Wales VIEW
LLOYD, Hannah Wife Married F 42 1839 Inn Keeper Wife
Denbigh, Denbighshire, Wales VIEW
LLOYD, Edward O Nephew Single M 8 1873 Scholar
Denbigh, Denbighshire, Wales VIEW
JONES, John Boarder Widower M 29 1852 Smith (B)
Rhos, Denbighshire, Wales VIEW
MORRIS, Margaret Servant Single F 22 1859 Servt Domestic
Llangedwin, Denbighshire, Wales VIEW

Piece: 2658

Folio: 31

Page: 37

Registration District: Oswestry

Civil Parish: Oswestry (Town Part)

Municipal Borough:

Address: Church Street, Oswestry (Town Part)

County: Shropshire

Jayne

Jayne Report 23 Aug 2012 13:00

Hi Maddie,
Thanks for this - I will do some more searching to see if I can fit the piece in the jigsaw!
Jayne :-)

Maddie

Maddie Report 23 Aug 2012 13:13

his birth certificate will confirm his parents names and fathers occupation

maddie

Maddie

Maddie Report 23 Aug 2012 13:15

just wondering if this could be john and hannah

Civil registration event: Marriage
View the original image

Name: LLOYD, John

Registration district: [?] Ruthin

County: Denbighshire

Year of registration: 1876

Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec

Spouse's last name Not available before 1912

Volume no: [?] 11B

Page no: [?] 564
MarriageFinderâ„¢: [?] John Lloyd married one of the following people Transcript
INGMAN, Jane VIEW
JONES, Hannah VIEW

JONES, Joseph

Von

Von Report 23 Aug 2012 13:40

Jayne
Where have you obtained the information on Edward Owen Lloyd?

On both the 1881 census and 1891 an Edward Owen Lloyd is described as the nephew of John and Hannah Lloyd and not son.

He would therefore be the son of John Lloyd's brother unless John's sister married a Lloyd.
Not unknown of course in Wales.

I really think you need some more information. He may have only been registered as Edward and given the second name Owen at his christening.
Good Luck
Von
Whose both great grannies were`Mary Davies from Wales and who also has Lloyds but from Pembrokeshire :-) :-) :-)

Jayne

Jayne Report 25 Aug 2012 20:23

Hi Von,
Firstly - apologies for leaving the site before you had finished - I thought I would try to find some more info, but do appreciate your help.
From Jayne - born in Pembroke Dock!
:-)

Von

Von Report 27 Aug 2012 18:22

Jayne
No worries.
Where does he appear in your tree? Sometimes looking at other relatives helps to sort out families especially when it comes to Lloyds,Davies,Evans and Jones in Wales.

Do you know if he married or had children?
Let us know when you get more info and we'll see if we can help
Take care
Von