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pittsy
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22 Aug 2012 08:03 |
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I am trying to trace more information on Augusta NOTT who I have found in the 1841 Census St Margaret Westminster Middlesex listed as living with Thomas NOTT B1801 Surveyor and Catherine NOTT B1802 - all not born in County, I am assuming that Augusta was the daughter. I have the marriage of Thomas Freeman Nott to Catherine Elizabeth Peters 12 June 1826 Surrey. I found a possible death at Lambeth in 1847. I cannot find her birth in 1827 or around that date.
Many thanks
Pittsy :-)
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Penny
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22 Aug 2012 08:21 |
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I'd be looking for Augusta's marriage , see who she names as her father. Have you found her in later cenus? where does she say she was born?
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Penny
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22 Aug 2012 08:24 |
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maybe not wise to assume. 1841 ages were rounded, so this could well be augusta ...or not
Name: Augusta Nott Age: 27 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Richard Nott Mother's Name: Jane Nott Gender: F (Female) Where born: Christchurch, London, England Civil parish: Camberwell County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View image Registration district: Camberwell Sub-registration district: Dulwich ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 13 Piece: 1580 Household Members: Name Age Richard Nott 60 Jane Nott 58 Maria Nott 30 Augusta Nott 27 Emily Grinter 24 Eliza Palman 21
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Penny
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22 Aug 2012 08:25 |
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Marriages Jun 1854 Mullings John Hastings 2b 37 Nott Augusta Elizabeth Hastings 2b 37
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Penny
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22 Aug 2012 08:29 |
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Deaths Sep 1859 MULLINGS Augusta Elizabeth Greenwich 1d 417
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22 Aug 2012 09:17 |
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Penny
Thanks for your quick response. The spelling in the 1841 Census is actually Agusta and her age on the original is 14. Of course she may not be the daughter of Thomas Nott but could be a relative staying there. The 3 of them are listed as not being born in county. Being born between say 1824 - 1830 she would probably have been married - a good chance of it. If this is the Thomas Nott -my relative he came to Australia with Mildred Amelia BROOKS and arrived prior to 1851 Census in England. Some researchers say Augusta was his daughter by his first marriage but I am unable to find Catherine or Augusta's death.
Pittsy
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Chris Ho :)
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22 Aug 2012 09:21 |
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London, England, Confirmation Records, 1850-1921 Name: Augusta Nott Est. Birth Year: abt 1827 Age: 16 Confirmation Date: 1843 County: London Borough: Camden Parish: Albany Street, Christ Church (8, Cumberland Market)
Chris :)
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Catherine
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22 Aug 2012 09:21 |
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Not sure if above 1851 census is correct as this looks to be the same family in 1841:-
1841 England Census about Augusta Nott Name: Augusta Nott Age: 17 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824 Gender: Female Civil parish: St Giles Camberwell Hundred: Brixton (Eastern Division) County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street Address: 18 Church Street
Occupation: (of father) Agent
Registration district: Camberwell Sub-registration district: Camberwell Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1050 Book: 4 Folio: 21 Page Number: 3 Household Members: Name Age Randolph Nott 50 Jane Nott 45 Maria Nott 20 Randolph Nott 19 Augusta Nott 17 Mary Jane Nott 15
None of the family are born in the county!
Ancestry links this Augusta to a death in Australia:-
Augusta Nott Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
...........but can't view as my sub doesn't allow me to.
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Gee
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22 Aug 2012 09:30 |
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Australia Death Index, 1787-1985 about Augusta Nott Name: Augusta Nott Death Date: 1921 Death Place: New South Wales Father's Name: Randolph Mother's Name: Jane Registration Year: 1921 Registration Place: St Leonards, New South Wales Registration Number: 14260
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22 Aug 2012 09:34 |
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England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about Augusta Nott <<<<<<Spinster Name: Augusta Nott Probate Date: 9 Aug 1882 Death Date: 25 Jul 1882 Death Place: Middlesex, England Registry: Principal Registry To Louisa Augusta White (widow) NOK - Niece
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pittsy
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22 Aug 2012 09:43 |
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Thanks Chris, Gins and Catherine
Death in Australia definitely interests me and knowing the father's name does mean that if this is the right person they were visiting and not a child of Thomas Nott.
Much appreciated.
Pittsy
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Catherine
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22 Aug 2012 09:53 |
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For info:- Have checked original 1851 census and it is definately the same family as 1841 census, as Head of household's occupation is (Agent) and address is 18 Church Street.
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Dea
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22 Aug 2012 09:55 |
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I have been looking at this - do you think that 'your' Augusta may have had an illigitimate child and died very soon after ?
Deaths Dec 1847 Nott Augusta Lambeth 4 262
Births Sep 1847 NOTT Augusta Lambeth 4 264
Possible explanation of who the father was?
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Augusta Smith Name: Augusta Smith Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: abt 1847 Baptism Date: 1 Aug 1847 Father's Name: George Smith Blind maker Mother's Name: Augusta Nott **** Parish or Poor Law Union: Lambeth Borough: Lambeth Register Type: Parish Registers Address - Workhouse **Illigitimate.**
I am trying to follow it through.
Dea x
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Catherine
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22 Aug 2012 10:03 |
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Also for info:-
1841 England Census about Thomas Nott Name: Thomas Nott Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801 Gender: Male Civil parish: St Margaret Hundred: Westminster County/Island: Middlesex Country: England
Street Address: Charles Street Occupation: Surveyor
Registration district: Westminster Sub-registration district: St Margaret Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 738 Book: 2 Folio: 42 Page Number: 29 Household Members: Name Age John Smith 39 Mary Smith 38 Mary Smith 12 George Smith 9 Valentine James 50 Ann James 56 Mary Robert 18 William Pitchford 28 xxxx Thomas Nott 40 xxxx Catherine Nott 39 xxxx Austa Nott 14
........................................ London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Thomas Freeman Nott Name: Thomas Freeman Nott Spouse Name: Catherine Elizabeth Peters Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 12 Jun 1826 Parish: Camberwell St Giles Borough: Southwark Register Type: Parish Register ...............................................................
Ancestry links this record also to death in Australia:-
Thomas Freeman Nott Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
and also this death:-
Mildred Nott Australia Death Index, 1787-1985 .....................................................
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Catherine
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22 Aug 2012 10:05 |
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I wonder???
name: Hannah Augusta Notts gender: Female baptism/christening date: 23 Jan 1827 baptism/christening place: Bosbury, Hereford, England father's name: father's birthplace: father's age: mother's name: Mary Notts indexing project (batch) number: C01706-6 system origin: England-EASy source film number: 1593875 reference number: 52
.....................no father's name so looks to be illegitimate?
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Catherine
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22 Aug 2012 10:12 |
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The parents of Thomas Freeman Nott, who married Catherine Peters are Thomas and Frances:-
name: Thomas Freeman Nott gender: Male baptism/christening date: 06 Jan 1800 baptism/christening place: ST MICHAEL,GLOUCESTER,GLOUCESTER,ENGLAND
father's name: Thomas Nott mother's name: Frances indexing project (batch) number: C02634-2 system origin: England-ODM source film number: 425423
and there looks to be a possible sister:-
name: Frances Mary Nott gender: Female baptism/christening date: 12 Nov 1813 baptism/christening place: Ledbury, Hereford, England
father's name: Thomas Bach Nott mother's name: Frances Nott
indexing project (batch) number: I03219-1 system origin: England-EASy source film number: 1593552 reference number: item 1 p 11
............christened in Hereford so same county as birth I posted earlier???
also another sibling christened same day:- name: Jane Nott gender: Female baptism/christening date: 12 Nov 1813 baptism/christening place: Ledbury, Hereford, England
father's name: Thomas Bach Nott mother's name: Frances Nott
indexing project (batch) number: I03219-1 system origin: England-EASy source film number: 1593552 reference number: item 1 p 11
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pittsy
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22 Aug 2012 10:51 |
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Catherine
Thankyou very much. I have heaps to go on with.
Pittsy
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