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Roslyn

Roslyn Report 21 Aug 2012 09:54

I am researching my grandfathers family.
His name is Charles Handley brth 1891.
His father was Joseph Handley 1864.
He married Emmie Winship.
His mother was Emma.

His daughter is my mother who is 92.Iris Handley (married Kenneth Westerman) She has a few fuddled ideas as who is brothers were. She mentions the name Mollet and Pepper and Emmeline Ammelia
and another Emmeline...

If anyone could help me firther with this it would be much appreciated. :-)

Roslyn Hill nee Westerman

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 21 Aug 2012 09:58

you need to give a location Roslyn before we can help you

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 21 Aug 2012 10:01

could this be him?

Percy Charles Handley
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
birth: 08 May 1890
christening: 11 Jun 1890 St James',? Hull,? York,? England
residence: 1890 Hull,? York,? England
parents: Joseph Handley,? Emeline Amelia Handley


name: Percy Charles Handley
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 11 Jun 1890
baptism/christening place: St James', Hull, York, England
birth date: 08 May 1890
father's name: Joseph Handley
mother's name: Emeline Amelia Handley
indexing project (batch) number: C01837-1
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1657087

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Aug 2012 10:20

Roslyn

You are obviously new to researching and not aware of how much info you can find for yourself.

Put the following in your favourites.....you'll find it invaluable

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

From that site...........


Marriages Sep 1915 (>99%)
Handley Percy C Winship Sculcoates 9d 413
Winship Emmie Handley Sculcoates 9d 413

Confirms the info Ann found.......and that Charles was not the man's first name

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Aug 2012 10:22

1911 census

Person: WINSHIP, Emmie Address: 86 Selby Street Hull

WINSHIP, Henry Head M 46 1865 Grocer Filey Yorks VIEW
WINSHIP, Emma Wife F 44 1867 Assisting In Business Hollym Holderness Yorks VIEW
WINSHIP, Emmie Daughter Single F 19 1892 Dress Maker Hull Yorks VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 28627 Reference: RG14PN28627 RG78PN1646 RD521 SD4 ED17 SN7 Registration District: Sculcoates Sub District: Hessle Enumeration District: 17 Parish: Sculcoates

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Aug 2012 10:24

1911 England Census

Name: Charles Percey Handley
Age in 1911: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Hull
Civil parish: Sculcoates
County/Island: Yorkshire-East Riding
Country: England
Street Address: 13 Gordon Avenue Woodcock St Hessle Rd Hull
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Iron Turner Aprintice
Registration district: Sculcoates
Registration District Number: 521
Sub-registration district: Hessle
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Piece: 28633
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Anderson 36
Ann Elizebeth Anderson 34
John Thomas Anderson 13
Edna May Anderson 5
Lillian Anderson 3
Anderson 3 Weeks
Emmeline A Handley 43....born Islington, London
Charles Percey Handley 20
Hugh William Handley 8
Edith Danne 43

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Aug 2012 10:25

1901 England Census

Name: Emmeline A Handley
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Joseph Handley
Gender: Female
Where born: London, England
Civil parish: Holy Trinity and St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Hull
Sub-registration district: Humber
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 146
Piece: 4499
Folio: 156
Page Number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Handley 36....born HULL
Emmeline A Handley 34
Charles P Handley 10
Emmeline A Handley 7
Francis R Handley 3
Joseph Handley 1
Annie Grela 17

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Aug 2012 10:27

Wouldn't normally post 1881..............but, in this instance.......


1881 England Census about Joseph Handley
Name: Joseph Handley
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph Handley
Mother's Name: Fanny Handley
Gender: Male
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Kingston-Upon-Hull
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address: 57 English Street

Registration district: Hull
Sub-registration district: Myton
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4772
Folio: 22
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Handley 54..........born Osbournby, Lincolnshire
Fanny Handley 48..........born Louth, Lincolnshire
John Thomas Handley 18
Joseph Handley 16
Robert Henry Handley 14
Samuel Doughty Handley 13
Caroline Ann Handley 8
James Baker Handley 7
Florence Edith Handley 3

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Aug 2012 11:20

Emmeline is a Widow in the 1911 census.

FMP version...

Household transcription
1911 census
Person: HANDLEY, Emmeline A
Address: 13 Gordon Avenue Woodcock St Hull

HANDLEY, Emmeline A Mother Widow F 43 1868 Housekeeper Irilington London VIEW
HANDLEY, Charles Percey Son Single M 20 1891 Iron Turner Aprentice Hull VIEW
HANDLEY, Hugh William Son Single M 8 1903 Hull VIEW
DANNE, Edith Visitor Widow F 43 1868 Housekeeper Out Of Sit Hull VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 28633
Reference: RG14PN28633 RG78PN1646 RD521 SD4 ED23 SN154
Registration District: Sculcoates
Sub District: Hessle
Enumeration District: 23
Parish: Sculcoates
Address: 13 Gordon Avenue Woodcock St Hull
County: Yorkshire (East riding)
( 6 children born, 5 living, 1 had died)





Deaths Sep 1904 (>99%)

HANDLEY Joseph 39 Hull 9d 197

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Aug 2012 11:39

Emmeline's other 3 children in 1911...


Household transcription
1911 census

PrPerson: HANDLEY, Emmeline
Address: 25 Arthur St Withernsea

MARTIN, John Summerfield Head Married M 69 1842 Retired Publican Spratton Northampton VIEW
MARTIN, Mary Ann Wife Married41 years F 64 1847 Married Woman Hull Yorkshire VIEW
MARTIN, John Peter Son Widower M 41 1870 None Hull Yorkshire VIEW
MARTIN, Charles Edward Grandson M 2 1909 Hull Yorkshire VIEW
WOLD, Alice Thompson Servant Single F 18 1893 Hull Yorkshire VIEW
HANDLEY, Emmeline Servant Single F 17 1894 Hull Yorkshire VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 28825
Reference: RG14PN28825 RG78PN1653 RD523 SD1 ED19 SN187
Registration District: Patrington
Sub District: Patrington
Enumeration District: 19
Parish: Withernsea
Address: 25 Arthur St Withernsea
County: Yorkshire (East riding)


England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about Emmeline A Handley
Name: Emmeline A Handley
Spouse Name: George J Bonner
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1921
Registration district: Hull
Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding
Volume Number: 9d
Page Number: 549


England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006
about Emmeline A Bonner
Name: Emmeline A Bonner
Birth Date: abt 1894
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1963
Age at Death: 69
Registration district: Leeds
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 2c
Page: 595



Household transcription
1911 census

Person: HANDLEY, Francis Richard
Institution: Hull Seaman's And General Orphans Asylum, HULL SEAMEN'S AND GENERAL ORPHAN'S ASYLUM, SPRING BANK

HANDLEY, Francis Richard Inmate M 13 1898 School Hull Yorks VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 28805
Reference: RG14PN28805 RD522 SD2 ED37 SN9999
Registration District: Hull
Sub District: Myton
Enumeration District: 37
Parish: Holy Trinity and St Mary
Address: Spring Bank Hull
County: Yorkshire (East riding)


England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006
about Francis Richard Handley
Name: Francis Richard Handley
Birth Date: 10 May 1897
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1977
Age at Death: 80
Registration district: Hull
Inferred County: Humberside
Volume: 7
Page: 0983



Household transcription
1911 census

Person: HANDLEY, Joseph
Institution: Hull Seaman's And General Orphans Asylum, HULL SEAMEN'S AND GENERAL ORPHAN'S ASYLUM, SPRING BANK

HANDLEY, Joseph M 11 1900 School Hull Yorks VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 28805
Reference: RG14PN28805 RD522 SD2 ED37 SN9999
Registration District: Hull
Sub District: Myton
Enumeration District: 37
Parish: Holy Trinity and St Mary
Address: Spring Bank Hull
County: Yorkshire (East riding)


??

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006
about Joseph Handley
Name: Joseph Handley
Birth Date: 21 Jul 1899
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1975
Age at Death: 75
Registration district: Hull
Inferred County: Humberside
Volume: 7
Page: 0605

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Aug 2012 11:50

I can't spot a marriage for a Joseph Handley to Emmeline Amelia ? OR a death for Emmeline Amelia Handley.


Did she remarry..

??

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about Emmeline A Handley
Name: Emmeline A Handley
Spouse Surname: Hodgson
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1929
Registration district: Sculcoates
Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding
Volume Number: 9d
Page Number: 486


England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006
about Emmeline A Hodgson
Name: Emmeline A Hodgson
Birth Date: abt 1866
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1933
Age at Death: 67
Registration district: Hull
Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 321



PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Aug 2012 13:25

Sharing a house with the Ford family...

1871 England Census
about Joseph Handley
Name: Joseph Handley
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Fanny Handley
[Elizabeth Ford]
Gender: Male
Where born: Osbournby, Lincolnshire, England
Civil parish: Holy Trinity
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Kingston upon Hull
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Hull
Sub-registration district: Myton
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Household schedule number: 136
Piece: 4791
Folio: 180
Page Number: 22
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Handley 44
Fanny Handley 37
Joseph Handley 7
Robert H Handley 5
Samuel D Handley 4
Charles Handley 2
Moses Ford
Elizabeth Ford 33
Mary Ann B Ford 11
Arne Lizzy Ford 9
Emiley Ford 7
William L Ford 7 Months


1861 England Census
about Joseph Handley
Name: Joseph Handley
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Fanny Handley
Gender: Male
Where born: Osbournby, Lincolnshire, England

Civil parish: Hull Holy Trinity
Town: Hull
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Hull
Sub-registration district: Myton
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 138
Piece: 3593
Folio: 14
Page Number: 21
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Handley 34
Fanny Handley 27
Charles W Handley 10 Months
Mary Jane Handley 26
John Garton 20


??

Marriages Jun 1859 (>99%)
Handley Joseph Lincoln 7a 899
Wood Fanny Lincoln 7a 899


PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Aug 2012 13:30

1851 England Census
about Joseph Handley
Name: Joseph Handley
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas Handley
Mother's Name: Ann Handley
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Osbournby, Lincolnshire, England

Civil parish: Osbournby
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Sleaford
Sub-registration district: Leadenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 124
Piece: 2101
Folio: 359
Page Number: 30
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Handley 49 (Shoemaker employing 3 sons...also Parish Clerk)
Ann Handley 50
Charles Handley 27
Joseph Handley 24
Elizabeth Handley 21
Ann Handley 19
Sarah Handley 16
Thomas Handley 15
Mary J Handley 10


1841 England Census
about Joseph Handley
Name: Joseph Handley
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Gender: Male
Where born: Lincolnshire, England

Civil parish: Osbournby
Hundred: Aswardhurn
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Sleaford
Sub-registration district: Aswarby
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 621
Book: 6
Folio: 5
Page Number: 4
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Handley 40 (Cordwainer)
Ann Handley 40
Joseph Handley 14
Elizabeth Handley 11
Ann Handley 9
Sarah Handley 7
Thomas Handley 6
Mary Handley 1


ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Aug 2012 13:44

1901 England Census

Name: Emmie Winship
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Henry Winship
Mother's Name: Emma Winship
Gender: Female
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Holy Trinity
Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabas
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Hull
Sub-registration district: Myton
ED, institution, or vessel: 34
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 114
Piece: 4505
Folio: 158
Page Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Winship 36...born FILEY
Emma Winship 34
Emmie Winship 9
George Graham 4



1891 England Census about Henry Winship
Name: Henry Winship

Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emma Winship
[Sarah Ann Winship]
Gender: Male
Where born: Filey, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Leeds
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Leeds
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Leeds
Sub-registration district: South East Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3684
Folio: 29
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Winship 36
Emma Winship 24
Sarah Ann Winship 44
Mary Winship 26
Edward Winship 21
Ida Winship 6
Sarah Hopton 30

1881 England Census

Name: Henry Winship
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Sarah Winship
Gender: Male
Where born: Filey, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Filey
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address: Chapel Lane

Occupation: Errand Boy
Registration district: Scarborough
Sub-registration district: Filey
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4801
Folio: 40
Page Number: 19
Household Members:
Name Age
Sarah Winship 48 born Trunch, Norfolk
Robert Waller 18 stepson
Henry Winship 16
John R. Winship 14
Ann E. Winship 12
Francis Wheeler 15

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Aug 2012 13:47

1871 England Census

Name: Sarah Winship
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Jacob Winship
Gender: Female
Where born: Edgefield, Norfolk, England
Civil parish: Filey
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Scarborough
Sub-registration district: Filey
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 251
Piece: 4814
Folio: 26
Page Number: 44
Household Members:
Name Age
Jacob Winship 36
Sarah Winship 39
William Winship 16
James Winship 14
John Winship 11
Robert Winship 9
Henry Winship 7
Joseph Winship 5
Ann Elizabeth Winship 3


1861 England Census about Sarah Walter
Name: Sarah Walter
[Sarah Waller]
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William Walter
Gender: Female
Where born: Trunch, Norfolk, England
Civil parish: Edgefield
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Registration district: Erpingham
Sub-registration district: Holt
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 63
Piece: 1203
Folio: 91
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
William Walter 28
Sarah Walter 29
William Walter 6
James Waller 4
John G Waller 6 Months


Marriages Jun 1867 (>99%)
Waller Sarah Scarbro' 9d 507
Winship Jacob Scarbro' 9d 507

Roslyn

Roslyn Report 22 Aug 2012 09:40

Brilliant! Wonderful help.. thankyou so much!
Lots of info especially on Joseph Handley and his parents and family.

Thanks Ann.. he was known as Charlie, but yes Percy was his name :-)

Thanks for your help Reggie

I have not been doing this long and I found my dads family belong to a considerably
well researched family of Birdtwistles who date back to 1160 !!

My mum will be well chuffed when I tell her about the Handleys. And my tree is growing on her side now!! :-D

Roslyn

Roslyn Report 22 Aug 2012 22:01

I would also like to thank Pricklyholly too for lots of info

Much appreciated guys.. work to do adding rels to my tree.

Happy bunny here :-)

Roslyn

Roslyn Report 24 Aug 2012 20:34

Success! thanks guys
Emmeline Amelia partner to Joseph Handley
Her maiden name was Mollett.
I googled her..... didn't think todo that!!

The Molletts are well researched and our blood line goes
back to 1704 ish to Rizen Mollett

and one of his sons Noah s Army life in the states lead him into Red Indian
territory...and the Mollets settled there...

Exciting stuff.. THANKS :-)