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21 Aug 2012 09:54 |
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I am researching my grandfathers family. His name is Charles Handley brth 1891. His father was Joseph Handley 1864. He married Emmie Winship. His mother was Emma.
His daughter is my mother who is 92.Iris Handley (married Kenneth Westerman) She has a few fuddled ideas as who is brothers were. She mentions the name Mollet and Pepper and Emmeline Ammelia and another Emmeline...
If anyone could help me firther with this it would be much appreciated. :-)
Roslyn Hill nee Westerman
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21 Aug 2012 09:58 |
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you need to give a location Roslyn before we can help you
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21 Aug 2012 10:01 |
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could this be him?
Percy Charles Handley England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 birth: 08 May 1890 christening: 11 Jun 1890 St James',? Hull,? York,? England residence: 1890 Hull,? York,? England parents: Joseph Handley,? Emeline Amelia Handley
name: Percy Charles Handley gender: Male baptism/christening date: 11 Jun 1890 baptism/christening place: St James', Hull, York, England birth date: 08 May 1890 father's name: Joseph Handley mother's name: Emeline Amelia Handley indexing project (batch) number: C01837-1 system origin: England-EASy source film number: 1657087
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ErikaH
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21 Aug 2012 10:20 |
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Roslyn
You are obviously new to researching and not aware of how much info you can find for yourself.
Put the following in your favourites.....you'll find it invaluable
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/
From that site...........
Marriages Sep 1915 (>99%) Handley Percy C Winship Sculcoates 9d 413 Winship Emmie Handley Sculcoates 9d 413 Confirms the info Ann found.......and that Charles was not the man's first name
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ErikaH
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21 Aug 2012 10:22 |
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1911 census
Person: WINSHIP, Emmie Address: 86 Selby Street Hull
WINSHIP, Henry Head M 46 1865 Grocer Filey Yorks VIEW WINSHIP, Emma Wife F 44 1867 Assisting In Business Hollym Holderness Yorks VIEW WINSHIP, Emmie Daughter Single F 19 1892 Dress Maker Hull Yorks VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 28627 Reference: RG14PN28627 RG78PN1646 RD521 SD4 ED17 SN7 Registration District: Sculcoates Sub District: Hessle Enumeration District: 17 Parish: Sculcoates
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ErikaH
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21 Aug 2012 10:24 |
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1911 England Census
Name: Charles Percey Handley Age in 1911: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Birth Place: Hull Civil parish: Sculcoates County/Island: Yorkshire-East Riding Country: England Street Address: 13 Gordon Avenue Woodcock St Hessle Rd Hull Marital Status: Single Occupation: Iron Turner Aprintice Registration district: Sculcoates Registration District Number: 521 Sub-registration district: Hessle ED, institution, or vessel: 23 Piece: 28633 Household Members: Name Age Samuel Anderson 36 Ann Elizebeth Anderson 34 John Thomas Anderson 13 Edna May Anderson 5 Lillian Anderson 3 Anderson 3 Weeks Emmeline A Handley 43....born Islington, London Charles Percey Handley 20 Hugh William Handley 8 Edith Danne 43
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ErikaH
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21 Aug 2012 10:25 |
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1901 England Census
Name: Emmeline A Handley Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Joseph Handley Gender: Female Where born: London, England Civil parish: Holy Trinity and St Mary Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England
Registration district: Hull Sub-registration district: Humber ED, institution, or vessel: 24 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 146 Piece: 4499 Folio: 156 Page Number: 21 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Handley 36....born HULL Emmeline A Handley 34 Charles P Handley 10 Emmeline A Handley 7 Francis R Handley 3 Joseph Handley 1 Annie Grela 17
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ErikaH
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21 Aug 2012 10:27 |
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Wouldn't normally post 1881..............but, in this instance.......
1881 England Census about Joseph Handley Name: Joseph Handley Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 Relation: Son Father's Name: Joseph Handley Mother's Name: Fanny Handley Gender: Male Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Kingston-Upon-Hull County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address: 57 English Street
Registration district: Hull Sub-registration district: Myton ED, institution, or vessel: 30 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4772 Folio: 22 Page Number: 5 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Handley 54..........born Osbournby, Lincolnshire Fanny Handley 48..........born Louth, Lincolnshire John Thomas Handley 18 Joseph Handley 16 Robert Henry Handley 14 Samuel Doughty Handley 13 Caroline Ann Handley 8 James Baker Handley 7 Florence Edith Handley 3
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PricklyHolly
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21 Aug 2012 11:20 |
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Emmeline is a Widow in the 1911 census.
FMP version...
Household transcription 1911 census Person: HANDLEY, Emmeline A Address: 13 Gordon Avenue Woodcock St Hull HANDLEY, Emmeline A Mother Widow F 43 1868 Housekeeper Irilington London VIEW HANDLEY, Charles Percey Son Single M 20 1891 Iron Turner Aprentice Hull VIEW HANDLEY, Hugh William Son Single M 8 1903 Hull VIEW DANNE, Edith Visitor Widow F 43 1868 Housekeeper Out Of Sit Hull VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 28633 Reference: RG14PN28633 RG78PN1646 RD521 SD4 ED23 SN154 Registration District: Sculcoates Sub District: Hessle Enumeration District: 23 Parish: Sculcoates Address: 13 Gordon Avenue Woodcock St Hull County: Yorkshire (East riding) ( 6 children born, 5 living, 1 had died)
Deaths Sep 1904 (>99%) HANDLEY Joseph 39 Hull 9d 197
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PricklyHolly
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21 Aug 2012 11:39 |
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Emmeline's other 3 children in 1911...
Household transcription 1911 census PrPerson: HANDLEY, Emmeline Address: 25 Arthur St Withernsea
MARTIN, John Summerfield Head Married M 69 1842 Retired Publican Spratton Northampton VIEW MARTIN, Mary Ann Wife Married41 years F 64 1847 Married Woman Hull Yorkshire VIEW MARTIN, John Peter Son Widower M 41 1870 None Hull Yorkshire VIEW MARTIN, Charles Edward Grandson M 2 1909 Hull Yorkshire VIEW WOLD, Alice Thompson Servant Single F 18 1893 Hull Yorkshire VIEW HANDLEY, Emmeline Servant Single F 17 1894 Hull Yorkshire VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 28825 Reference: RG14PN28825 RG78PN1653 RD523 SD1 ED19 SN187 Registration District: Patrington Sub District: Patrington Enumeration District: 19 Parish: Withernsea Address: 25 Arthur St Withernsea County: Yorkshire (East riding)
England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005 about Emmeline A Handley Name: Emmeline A Handley Spouse Name: George J Bonner Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1921 Registration district: Hull Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding Volume Number: 9d Page Number: 549
England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006 about Emmeline A Bonner Name: Emmeline A Bonner Birth Date: abt 1894 Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1963 Age at Death: 69 Registration district: Leeds Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding Volume: 2c Page: 595
Household transcription 1911 census Person: HANDLEY, Francis Richard Institution: Hull Seaman's And General Orphans Asylum, HULL SEAMEN'S AND GENERAL ORPHAN'S ASYLUM, SPRING BANK
HANDLEY, Francis Richard Inmate M 13 1898 School Hull Yorks VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 28805 Reference: RG14PN28805 RD522 SD2 ED37 SN9999 Registration District: Hull Sub District: Myton Enumeration District: 37 Parish: Holy Trinity and St Mary Address: Spring Bank Hull County: Yorkshire (East riding)
England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006 about Francis Richard Handley Name: Francis Richard Handley Birth Date: 10 May 1897 Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1977 Age at Death: 80 Registration district: Hull Inferred County: Humberside Volume: 7 Page: 0983
Household transcription 1911 census Person: HANDLEY, Joseph Institution: Hull Seaman's And General Orphans Asylum, HULL SEAMEN'S AND GENERAL ORPHAN'S ASYLUM, SPRING BANK
HANDLEY, Joseph M 11 1900 School Hull Yorks VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 28805 Reference: RG14PN28805 RD522 SD2 ED37 SN9999 Registration District: Hull Sub District: Myton Enumeration District: 37 Parish: Holy Trinity and St Mary Address: Spring Bank Hull County: Yorkshire (East riding)
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England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006 about Joseph Handley Name: Joseph Handley Birth Date: 21 Jul 1899 Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1975 Age at Death: 75 Registration district: Hull Inferred County: Humberside Volume: 7 Page: 0605
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PricklyHolly
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21 Aug 2012 11:50 |
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I can't spot a marriage for a Joseph Handley to Emmeline Amelia ? OR a death for Emmeline Amelia Handley.
Did she remarry..
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England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005 about Emmeline A Handley Name: Emmeline A Handley Spouse Surname: Hodgson Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1929 Registration district: Sculcoates Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding Volume Number: 9d Page Number: 486
England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006 about Emmeline A Hodgson Name: Emmeline A Hodgson Birth Date: abt 1866 Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1933 Age at Death: 67 Registration district: Hull Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding Volume: 9d Page: 321
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PricklyHolly
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21 Aug 2012 13:25 |
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Sharing a house with the Ford family...
1871 England Census about Joseph Handley Name: Joseph Handley Age: 44 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Fanny Handley [Elizabeth Ford] Gender: Male Where born: Osbournby, Lincolnshire, England Civil parish: Holy Trinity Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity Town: Kingston upon Hull County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Hull Sub-registration district: Myton ED, institution, or vessel: 26 Household schedule number: 136 Piece: 4791 Folio: 180 Page Number: 22 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Handley 44 Fanny Handley 37 Joseph Handley 7 Robert H Handley 5 Samuel D Handley 4 Charles Handley 2 Moses Ford Elizabeth Ford 33 Mary Ann B Ford 11 Arne Lizzy Ford 9 Emiley Ford 7 William L Ford 7 Months 1861 England Census about Joseph Handley Name: Joseph Handley Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Fanny Handley Gender: Male Where born: Osbournby, Lincolnshire, England Civil parish: Hull Holy Trinity Town: Hull County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Hull Sub-registration district: Myton ED, institution, or vessel: 20 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 138 Piece: 3593 Folio: 14 Page Number: 21 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Handley 34 Fanny Handley 27 Charles W Handley 10 Months Mary Jane Handley 26 John Garton 20 ??
Marriages Jun 1859 (>99%) Handley Joseph Lincoln 7a 899 Wood Fanny Lincoln 7a 899
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PricklyHolly
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21 Aug 2012 13:30 |
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1851 England Census about Joseph Handley Name: Joseph Handley Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827 Relation: Son Father's Name: Thomas Handley Mother's Name: Ann Handley Gender: M (Male) Where born: Osbournby, Lincolnshire, England Civil parish: Osbournby County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View image Registration district: Sleaford Sub-registration district: Leadenham ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 124 Piece: 2101 Folio: 359 Page Number: 30 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Handley 49 (Shoemaker employing 3 sons...also Parish Clerk) Ann Handley 50 Charles Handley 27 Joseph Handley 24 Elizabeth Handley 21 Ann Handley 19 Sarah Handley 16 Thomas Handley 15 Mary J Handley 10 1841 England Census about Joseph Handley Name: Joseph Handley Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827 Gender: Male Where born: Lincolnshire, England Civil parish: Osbournby Hundred: Aswardhurn County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: Sleaford Sub-registration district: Aswarby Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 621 Book: 6 Folio: 5 Page Number: 4 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Handley 40 (Cordwainer) Ann Handley 40 Joseph Handley 14 Elizabeth Handley 11 Ann Handley 9 Sarah Handley 7 Thomas Handley 6 Mary Handley 1
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21 Aug 2012 13:44 |
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1901 England Census
Name: Emmie Winship Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Henry Winship Mother's Name: Emma Winship Gender: Female Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Holy Trinity Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabas County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England
Registration district: Hull Sub-registration district: Myton ED, institution, or vessel: 34 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 114 Piece: 4505 Folio: 158 Page Number: 17 Household Members: Name Age Henry Winship 36...born FILEY Emma Winship 34 Emmie Winship 9 George Graham 4
1891 England Census about Henry Winship Name: Henry Winship
Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Emma Winship [Sarah Ann Winship] Gender: Male Where born: Filey, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Leeds Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter Town: Leeds County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England
Registration district: Leeds Sub-registration district: South East Leeds ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3684 Folio: 29 Page Number: 3 Household Members: Name Age Henry Winship 36 Emma Winship 24 Sarah Ann Winship 44 Mary Winship 26 Edward Winship 21 Ida Winship 6 Sarah Hopton 30
1881 England Census
Name: Henry Winship Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 Relation: Son Mother's Name: Sarah Winship Gender: Male Where born: Filey, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Filey County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address: Chapel Lane
Occupation: Errand Boy Registration district: Scarborough Sub-registration district: Filey ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4801 Folio: 40 Page Number: 19 Household Members: Name Age Sarah Winship 48 born Trunch, Norfolk Robert Waller 18 stepson Henry Winship 16 John R. Winship 14 Ann E. Winship 12 Francis Wheeler 15
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21 Aug 2012 13:47 |
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1871 England Census
Name: Sarah Winship Age: 39 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Jacob Winship Gender: Female Where born: Edgefield, Norfolk, England Civil parish: Filey County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Scarborough Sub-registration district: Filey ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Household schedule number: 251 Piece: 4814 Folio: 26 Page Number: 44 Household Members: Name Age Jacob Winship 36 Sarah Winship 39 William Winship 16 James Winship 14 John Winship 11 Robert Winship 9 Henry Winship 7 Joseph Winship 5 Ann Elizabeth Winship 3
1861 England Census about Sarah Walter Name: Sarah Walter [Sarah Waller] Age: 29 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: William Walter Gender: Female Where born: Trunch, Norfolk, England Civil parish: Edgefield County/Island: Norfolk Country: England
Registration district: Erpingham Sub-registration district: Holt ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 63 Piece: 1203 Folio: 91 Page Number: 11 Household Members: Name Age William Walter 28 Sarah Walter 29 William Walter 6 James Waller 4 John G Waller 6 Months
Marriages Jun 1867 (>99%) Waller Sarah Scarbro' 9d 507 Winship Jacob Scarbro' 9d 507
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Roslyn
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22 Aug 2012 09:40 |
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Brilliant! Wonderful help.. thankyou so much! Lots of info especially on Joseph Handley and his parents and family.
Thanks Ann.. he was known as Charlie, but yes Percy was his name :-)
Thanks for your help Reggie
I have not been doing this long and I found my dads family belong to a considerably well researched family of Birdtwistles who date back to 1160 !!
My mum will be well chuffed when I tell her about the Handleys. And my tree is growing on her side now!! :-D
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Roslyn
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22 Aug 2012 22:01 |
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I would also like to thank Pricklyholly too for lots of info
Much appreciated guys.. work to do adding rels to my tree.
Happy bunny here :-)
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Roslyn
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24 Aug 2012 20:34 |
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Success! thanks guys Emmeline Amelia partner to Joseph Handley Her maiden name was Mollett. I googled her..... didn't think todo that!!
The Molletts are well researched and our blood line goes back to 1704 ish to Rizen Mollett
and one of his sons Noah s Army life in the states lead him into Red Indian territory...and the Mollets settled there...
Exciting stuff.. THANKS :-)
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