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Hi can anyone help? (I dont think there are any answers) my great grandfather was born in Handsworth Birmingham,he was born illegitimate in 1848,to mary stone,my great grandfather was,George Winnall Stone,he didnt start useing Winnall untill his later years,i believe its his fathers surname,maybe if i could find a parish church close to were he was born.but i dont know birmingham at all,i think there is a st marys? how would i check for records? i know everything else about him but he dosent seem to have a birth cert,i hope someone can help please
regards Nena. :-(

George Stone
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1848 Birmingham
census: 31 Mar 1901 Birmingham,? Warwickshire,? England


name: George Stone
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Male
age: 53
relationship to head of household: Head
birthplace: Birmingham
record type: Household
registration district: Birmingham
sub-district: St Martin
civil parish: Birmingham
county: Warwickshire

I cannot see a birth for him in 1848 but their is one in 1846

Births Mar 1846
Stone George Birmingham 16 326

Marriages Sep 1851?? possible father?
Winnall George Birmingham 16 424

Births Sep 1851
Winnall Sophia Birmingham 16 321



Roy

Thank you i will check the 1846 birth,but everything seems to add up to the 1848.
kind regards Nena.

I thought you had his birth cert? how did you no he was illegitimate?

The dates quoted on census details are only approximate dates and are often out by abt 1/2/ or 3 years

Roy

St.Mary's is/was the church for Handsworth. Not sure about any others. Some of hubby's lot came from that area.

I'm off out but will come back later or tomorrow and see if I can help.

Some of us are planning another trip into Birmingham to the Central Library but we haven't set a date yet.

If St.Mary's has a film available to look at, we can add it to our list for one of our trips.

J

Not sure if this fits as I dont know the area


Warwickshire, England, Baptisms, 1813-1910
about George
Name: George
Parish: Arrow
Baptism Date: 10 Sep 1848
Mother's Name: Mary Puddle

No father listed

Hi Nena

Have double checked all my sources on Family Search, Ancestry etc but can't find any trace of a baptism. According to Birmingham Online Parish Clerks site, St Mary, Handsworth isn't included on the IGI. The Records are however held at Birmingham Central Reference Library, so you could email them to see if someone could do a look-up for you.

There is a Birth Registration for George Stone in Birmingham in 1846. Could this be him? The index number is Jan to March 1846 Volume 16 Page 3526. If you haven't already done so it would be worthwhile sending for that one from the General Record Office and you can do that online (its the Passport Office now)

Also on Ancestry. co I found the index for George Stone (also known as Winnall)'s will which I would be happy to send if you send me your email address.

Hope this helps

Pam

You must bear in mind that until 1875 there were no penalties for not registering births, and illegitimate ones were the most likely to go unrecorded

Worth remembering that c1848 Handsworth was part of the West Bromwich Registration District and came within the Staffordshire South Parliamentary Division.

A birth in Handsworth at the time if registered would have been in West Bromwich, not Birmingham.

Good point Reggie

Roy