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Oh wow! Thanks everyone. I wasnt even aware of there being a first wife. You guys have given me a lot to go on here. :-D

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: John Varley Greenwood
Probate Date: 13 Apr 1911
Death Date: 25 Feb 1911
Death Place: Lancashire, England
Registry: Lancaster, England

Lived 13 Avondale Road, Darwen. Tape sizer. Administration to Fanny, widow. Effects £1040 9s 2d

Most likely the death of John's first wife:

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Deaths Mar 1899
Greenwood Nancy Ellen 26 Blackburn 8e 348

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Baptisms: 30 Mar 1818 Lower Chapel Independent, Over Darwen, Lancashire, England
Katharine Eccles - Daughter of Henry Eccles & Ann (formerly Eccles)
Born: 22 Dec 1817
Abode: New Road Over Darwen Blackburn
Baptised by: R. Blake
Register: Baptisms 1815 - 1838, Page 37
Source: LDS Film 0560876
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Marriage: 20 May 1839 St Mary the Virgin, Blackburn, Lancashire, England
James Grenwood - (X), Full Age Tailor Bachelor of Over Darwen
Catherine Eccles - (X), Full Age Spinster of Over Darwen
Groom's Father: Thomas Grenwood, Tailor
Bride's Father: Henry Eccles, Paper Maker
Witness: Joseph Fairbrother; Thomas Livesey
Married by: Thos Sharples
Register: Marriages 1838 - 1839, Page 158, Entry 316
Source: LDS Film 1278817

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Name: GREENWOOD, James

Registration district: [?] Blackburn

County: Lancashire

Year of registration: 1839

Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun

Spouse's last name Not available before 1912

Volume no: [?] 21

Page no: [?] 18

ECCLES, Catherine

could this be catherine in 1851
GREENWOOD, James Head Married M 36 1815 Tailor And Draper
Over Darwen, Lancashire VIEW
GREENWOOD, Catherine Wife Married F 33 1818
Over Darwen, Lancashire VIEW
GREENWOOD, Thomas Son M 10 1841 Tailor
Over Darwen, Lancashire VIEW
GREENWOOD, Henry Son M 8 1843 Scholar
Over Darwen, Lancashire VIEW
GREENWOOD, Alfred Son M 6 1845 Scholar
Over Darwen, Lancashire VIEW
GREENWOOD, Ann Daughter F 5 1846
Over Darwen, Lancashire VIEW
GREENWOOD, Elizabeth Daughter F 2 1849
Over Darwen, Lancashire VIEW
GREENWOOD, Catherine Daughter F 0 (3 MOS) 1851
Over Darwen, Lancashire VIEW
ECCLES, Ann Mother In Law Widow F 63 1788
Over Darwen, Lancashire VIEW

Piece: 2261

Folio: 170

Page: 24

Registration District: Blackburn

Civil Parish: Over Darwen

Municipal Borough:

Address: Market Street, Over Darwen

County: Lancashire
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Andrew

Marriage between Thomas GREENWOOD and Ellen VARLEY in Dec 1867 Q Blackburn and birth of John Varley Greenwood in June 69 Q in Blackburn RD. So it wil be right what you have - 9th April 1869 and you will know names of parents already.

In C1871 in Over Darwen, it is:

Thomas GREENWOOD, 30, cotton weaver
Ellen, wife, 29
John V, son, 1

next door is who I expect to be mother of Thomas:
Catherine GREENWOOD, widow, 54, tailor & draper
Henry, son, 28, single, tea dealer
Ann, daughter, 25, single, cotton weaver
Catherine, dau, 20, single, milliner
All the above 7 people born in Over Darwen

In C1881 at 3 Varley St (sic) it is:

Thomas GREENWOOD, 40, tailor & woollen draper
Ellen, 39
John, 11
James Alfred, 9
Harry, 5
Frederick Thomas, 2
All born Over Darwen

LancsBMD confirms it was Nancy Ellen Hargreaves:

Marriage Indexes
Surname Forename(s) Spouse's Surname Spouse's Forename(s) Year Church / Register Office Registers At Region Reference Order Online
GREENWOOD John Varley HARGREAVES Nancy Ellen 1896 Blackburn Register Office or Registrar Attended Blackburn Lancashire RM/130/35 N/A

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parents marraige ????
Name: GREENWOOD, Thomas

Registration district: [?] Blackburn

County: Lancashire

Year of registration: 1867

Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec

Spouse's last name Not available before 1912

Volume no: [?] 8E

Page no: [?] 571
MarriageFinder™: [?] Thomas Greenwood married one of the following people Transcript
VARLEY, Ellen VIEW
WADE, Susannah

Here's his first marriage:

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1896
FLANNERY Catherine Blackburn 8e 924
Greenwood John Varley Blackburn 8e 924
Hargreaves Nancy Ellen Blackburn 8e 924
McNicholas Michael Blackburn 8e 924

Need to work out which of the two women were his bride.

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Thankyou

Harry gives me something else to go on

Andrew - I've added some more info above (always an idea to re-read what has been posted in case some further info has been found and added)

Thats great thanks. Just noticed his father as Thomas, could be where i have been having trouble as i was led to belive his name was william.

Here's his marriage details - it wasn't his first!:

Lancashire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1936

Name: John Varley Greenwood - a widower. Tape sizer of 4 Matlock Terrace.
Age: 30
Birth Year: abt 1870
Marriage Date: 6 Mar 1900
Parish: Darwen, St Cuthbert
Spouse: Fanny Charnock, spinster. A weaver of 44 Greenway Street.
Spouse Age: 29
Father: Thomas Greenwood - Deceased.
Spouse Father: John Charnock - Brickmaker
Reference Number: Pr 3142/1/5

Witnesses: Harry Greenwood and Rachel Charnock.

I guess Harry must be a relative.

Ah! thanks for that.

Thanks, thats about as far as ive managed to get with him. His mother & any possible siblings have drawn a blank for me though MarieCeleste.

Andrew - please go to your first post and there is a button that says something like "mark this as unanswered", click that.

When you tick someone's reply as answered it marks the whole thread as complete so people will stop helping!

I got his dates from birth & death certs in the family. He was in the 1901 census