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Thank you all for your input - at least I know someone else has looked and it is not just me

Elizabeth :-)

in 1881 this is the only Ares born Alton

1881 Person: AYRES, Henry Address: In Tent, Yeovil Rd, Farnborough
AYRES, Henry Head Widower M 58 1823 Gipsey No Occ
Alton, Hampshire

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Parish Record Collection - Baptism Record

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Day: 19
Month: Mar
Year: 1826
Son/Daughter: Son
Forename: Nehemiah
Surname: Ares
First Parent: George
Second Parent: Rosenah
Notes:
Parish: Brown Candover
County: Hampshire
Record source: Hampshire Baptisms
Data provider: Hampshire Genealogical Society

Just for reference

1891 PIDGLEY, James Head Married M 25 1866 Traveller
Alton, Hampshire
PIDGLEY, Sabina Wife Married F 26 1865 Romsey, Hampshire
PIDGLEY, John Son M 5 1886 Guildford, Surrey
PIDGLEY, Mary Jane Daughter F 5 1886 Wimborne, Dorsetshire
PIDGLEY, Amilia Daughter F 4 1887 Ringwood, Hampshire
PIDGLEY, James Son M 1 1890 Bournemouth, Hampshire
AIRS, Oliver Wifes Father Widower M 74 1817 Hawk Traveller
Alton, Hampshire

LadyKira

I am noting all suggestions so thank you for that !

I am not sure if this one is connected but may be of interest later.

1851 Person: READ, Oliver Institution: Romsey Union,
READ, Oliver Inmate M 6 1845 Deserted Ly Parents Scholar Wk School
Romsy Extra, Hampsh

Thanks Marie

Not sure it is the same one as "my" Oliver baptised a son with Rosa in 1859 and the daughter (Selina Pidgley f Ayres) he is with in 1891 was born c 1864

Certainly is a puzzle :-S

Elizabeth

Not seeing a shipping record yet, but here's the complete 1880 with children to give an indication of when he must have arrived:

1880 United States Federal Census about Oliver Ares
Name: Oliver Ares
Age: 56
Birth Year: abt 1824
Birthplace: England
Home in 1880: Mckeesport, Allegheny, Pennsylvania
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Eliza Ares
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: Ireland
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: Knobler

Name Age
Oliver Ares 56
Eliza Ares 53
Samuel Ares 21
Edmund Ares 18
Laura Ares 15
Arillia Ares 11
Susan Ares 9
Annie Young 13
Charls Robinson 11

The two elder sons are also "knoblers". Everyone except Oliver born in Penn.

Hello Ann

Thank you for that-I did not have Emily's baptism,it all helps !

Can that possibly be the Oliver I am looking for in America ?

Would there be any passenger lists for that period ?

Edit
I have checked on A*****y and there is a listing for several Oliver Ayres - has anyone Wordwide membership willing to check please ?

Oliver Eyres
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
spouse: Jane
child: Oliver Eyres


name: Oliver Eyres
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 25 Jan 1859
baptism/christening place: Minstead, Hampshire, England
father's name: Oliver Eyres
mother's name: Jane
indexing project (batch) number: I03960-1
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1596211

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Oliver Ares
United States Census, 1880
birth: 1824 England
residence: 1880 Mckeesport,? Allegheny,? Pennsylvania
spouse: Eliza Ares
children: Samuel Ares,? Edmund Ares...


name: Oliver Ares
residence: Mckeesport, Allegheny, Pennsylvania
birthdate: 1824
birthplace: England
relationship to head: Self
spouse's name: Eliza Ares
spouse's birthplace: Pennsylvania, United States
father's birthplace: England
mother's birthplace: Ireland
race or color (expanded): White
ethnicity (standardized): American
gender: Male
martial status: Married
age (expanded): 56 years
occupation: Knobler
nara film number: T9-1088
page: 365
page character: A
entry number: 18

Anne Ayre
England, Marriages, 1538–1973
marriage: 20 Jul 1837 Alverstoke,? Hampshire,? England
spouse: Robert Pyke


groom's name: Robert Pyke
bride's name: Anne Ayre
marriage date: 20 Jul 1837
marriage place: Alverstoke, Hampshire, England
indexing project (batch) number: I04389-0
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1596262

Henry Ayers
England, Marriages, 1538–1973
marriage: 14 Jun 1840 Alverstoke,?Hampshire,?England
spouse: Anne Potts


groom's name: Henry Ayers
bride's name: Anne Potts
marriage date: 14 Jun 1840
marriage place: Alverstoke,Hampshire,England
indexing project (batch) number: M07357-8
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 918905

Henry Ayers
England, Marriages, 1538–1973
marriage: 17 Oct 1840 Alverstoke,?Hampshire,?England
spouse: Jane Reeves


groom's name: Henry Ayers
bride's name: Jane Reeves
marriage date: 17 Oct 1840
marriage place: Alverstoke,Hampshire,England
indexing project (batch) number: M07357-8
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 918905

... Ayres
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 06 Feb 1820 Minstead,? Hampshire,? England
residence: Minstead,? Hampshire,? England
parents: ... Ayres,? ...


name: ... Ayres
gender: Unknown
baptism/christening date: 06 Feb 1820
baptism/christening place: Minstead, Hampshire, England
father's name: ... Ayres
mother's name: ...
indexing project (batch) number: I01723-7
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 6344382

Emily Eyres
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 04 Feb 1833 HAMBLEDON,?HAMPSHIRE,?ENGLAND
parents: George Eyres,? Rose


name: Emily Eyres
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 04 Feb 1833
baptism/christening place: HAMBLEDON,HAMPSHIRE,ENGLAND
father's name: George Eyres
mother's name: Rose
indexing project (batch) number: C13661-2
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 1041206

Henry Ayers
England, Marriages, 1538–1973
marriage: 17 Oct 1840 Alverstoke,? Hampshire,? England
parents: George Ayers
spouse: Jane Reeves


groom's name: Henry Ayers
bride's name: Jane Reeves
marriage date: 17 Oct 1840
marriage place: Alverstoke, Hampshire, England
groom's father's name: George Ayers
bride's father's name: John Reeves
indexing project (batch) number: I04389-1
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1596262

Ann Ayres
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 09 Oct 1830 Hurstbourne-?Tarrant,? Hampshire,? England
residence: Hurstbourne-?Tarrant,? Hampshire,? England
parents: George Ayres,? Rosanna


name: Ann Ayres
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 09 Oct 1830
baptism/christening place: Hurstbourne-Tarrant, Hampshire, England
father's name: George Ayres
mother's name: Rosanna
indexing project (batch) number: C02265-3
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1041368

I will try and explain clearly :-)

These are another branch of my DILs travelling family.

Oliver AYRES was baptised at Selborne Hampshire 22 Sept 1823 s George AYRES & Rosa (PIKE) travellers-he was baptised as PIKE

George and Rosa(nna) had a large family and I have them in the 1851 census (Ayres) they married in 1853.

I cannot find any trace of Oliver-Ayres/Airs//Eyres (or Pike or Read) etc in any census until 1891 when he is camped with his daughter Sabina (Pidgley) at Talbot Woods (Bournemouth)
He is Oliver AIRS -wid-age 65-he died in 1895 age 66

His partner was Jane READ/REID (no formal marriage found) and I have found baptisms for 2 children
Nehemiah in 1850 at Whitchurch (Hants) and Oliver-1859 at Minstead (Hants)

A Tree on A******y has other children - Eliza(1850 who started this as she married a Jeff ! ) and Dorcas 1855 and Louisa 1860 and Sabina 1864 but there are no sources

I know the travellers dodged the census' and used different names,but usually they turn up somewhere at some time !

Any ideas ?

Elizabeth