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Richard Trewyn Runnalls. Australian Death

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Robert

Robert Report 19 Aug 2012 12:29

Richard was born in 1827, christened 26-9-1827 in St. Breward, Cornwall. He is in the 1861 census living in Carne, Warleggan, Cornwall, with his wife Jane, and children Rebecca 10, Jane 8, Mary 7, Annie 4 and Thomas St. John 2. He died somewhere in Australia 16-10-1878. I would like to know how he got to Australia, why he went there, and did he have any other family in Australia? Many thanks for any help. R. Keith Brewer.

JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 19 Aug 2012 12:58

Can I suggest that you add Australia into your thread title.

It will make your enquiry more specific as some GR members can help you but others like myself have no idea at all.

Jill

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Aug 2012 13:58

Richard Trewyn Runnalls
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 26 Sep 1827 Breward,? Cornwall,? England
residence: St. Breward,? Cornwall,? England
parents: Thomas Runnalls,? Rebecca


AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Aug 2012 14:00

Catherine Trewyn Runnalls
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 03 Sep 1848 WARLEGGON,?CORNWALL,?ENGLAND
parents: Thomas Runnalls,? Rebecca

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Aug 2012 14:01

further back




name: Richards /Runnalls/
gender: Male
birth: ABT 1715
St Breward, Cornwall, England
Fact 1 2 MAY 1715
Christened at St Breward, Cornwall, England


Parents
father: John /Reignolds/
mother: Ann /(Unknown)/

Marriages (2)
spouse: Anne /Burden/
marriage: 30 JUN 1742
Jacobstowe Parish, Cornwall, England
Hide children (7)

child 1: Anne /Runnalls/
gender: Female

child 2: John /Runnalls/
gender: Male
BIRTH ABT 1747
St Breward, Cornwall, England
Fact 1 21 MAR 1746/47
Christened at St Breward, Cornwall, England

child 3: Richard /Runnalls/
gender: Male
BIRTH ABT 1746

Fact 1 27 APR 1746
Christened at St Breward, Cornwall, England

child 4: James /Runnalls/
gender: Male
BIRTH ABT 1753
St Breward, Cornwall, England
DEATH 28 MAR 1759

Fact 1 18 JUN 1753
Christened at St Breward, Cornwall, England

child 5: Sarah /Runnalls/
gender: Female
BIRTH ABT 1755
St Breward, Cornwall, England
Fact 1 12 JAN 1756
Christened at St Breward, Cornwall, England

child 6: Robert /Runnalls/
gender: Male
BIRTH ABT 1758
St Breward, Cornwall, England
Fact 1 15 AUG 1758
Christened at St Breward, Cornwall, England

child 7: Deborah /Runnalls/
gender: Female
BIRTH ABT 1750
St Breward, Cornwall, England
Fact 1 16 OCT 1750
Christened at St Breward, Cornwall, England

spouse: Ann /Chapman/
marriage: BEF 1741
Hide children (1)

child 1: William /Runnalls/
gender: Male

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Aug 2012 14:01



name: John /Reignolds/
gender: Male
birth: 20 DEC 1685
Redruth, Cornwall, England
death: 17 JUN 1739
St Breward, Cornwall, England


Marriages (1)
spouse: Ann /(Unknown)/
marriage: ABT 1710
England
Hide children (11)

child 1: Honour /Reignolds/
gender: Female
BIRTH ABT 1710
St Breward, Cornwall, England
Fact 1 FEB 1710/11
Christened at St Breward, Cornwall, England

child 2: John /Reignolds/
gender: Male
BIRTH ABT 1712
St Breward, Cornwall, England
Fact 1 14 JAN 1712/13
Christened at St Breward, Cornwall, England

child 3: Robert /Reignolds/
gender: Male
BIRTH ABT 1716
St Breward, Cornwall, England
Fact 1 13 JAN 1716/17
Christened at St Breward, Cornwall, England

child 4: Richards /Runnalls/
gender: Male
BIRTH ABT 1715
St Breward, Cornwall, England
Fact 1 2 MAY 1715
Christened at St Breward, Cornwall, England

child 5: Joan /Reignolds/
gender: Female
BIRTH ABT 1724
St Breward, Cornwall, England
Fact 1 9 MAR 1723/24
Christened at St Breward, Cornwall, England

child 6: Phillippa /Reignolds/
gender: Female
BIRTH ABT 1722
St Breward, Cornwall, England
Fact 1 27 MAR 1722
Christened at St Breward, Cornwall, England

child 7: Mary /Reignolds/
gender: Female
BIRTH ABT 1727
St Breward, Cornwall, England
Fact 1 4 APR 1727
Christened at St Breward, Cornwall, England

child 8: William /Reignolds/
gender: Male
BIRTH 4 JUL 1720


child 9: Ann /Reignolds/
gender: Female
BIRTH ABT 1732
St Breward, Cornwall, England
DEATH 9 OCT 1769

Fact 1 20 FEB 1731/32
Christened at St Breward, Cornwall, England

child 10: James /Reignolds/
gender: Male
BIRTH ABT 1730
St Breward, Cornwall, England
Fact 1 8 SEP 1730
Christened at St Breward, Cornwall, England

child 11: Grace /Reignolds/
gender: Female
BIRTH ABT 1734
St Breward, Cornwall, England
Fact 1 25 JUN 1734
Christened at St Breward, Cornwall, England

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Aug 2012 14:06

Richard Trewyn Runnalls
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 26 Sep 1827 Breward,? Cornwall,? England
residence: St. Breward,? Cornwall,? England
parents: Thomas Runnalls,? Rebecca


name: Richard Trewyn Runnalls
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 26 Sep 1827
baptism/christening place: Breward, Cornwall, England
father's name: Thomas Runnalls
mother's name: Rebecca
indexing project (batch) number: I02405-5
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1545325

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Aug 2012 14:07

Elizabeth Runnalls
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 20 Jul 1851 WARLEGGON,?CORNWALL,?ENGLAND
parents: Thomas Runnalls,? Rebecca

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Aug 2012 14:08

Jane Runnalls
England and Wales Census, 1871
birth: 1861 St Breward,? Cornwall
residence: 1871 Swallock,? St Breward,? Cornwall,? England
parents: Thomas Runnalls


name: Jane Runnalls
event: Census
event date: 1871
gender: Female
age: 10
relationship to head of household: Daughter
birthplace: St Breward, Cornwall
record type: Household
registration district: Camelford
sub-district: Camelford
event parish: St Breward
county: Cornwall

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Aug 2012 23:32

would have been good to have some response here rather than just mark it as answered

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 20 Aug 2012 04:48

Robert


Please may I suggest that you REMOVE the ticks from those two postings.


The ticks show on the Index page that the question (s) for this thread have been answered

.......... and that is so that no-one will waste time reading through the posts when everything has been completed.


The questions have NOT been answered .................. but you are not likely to get many more responses, unless you remove those two ticks


and reply on the thread to the questions asked of you.



Thank you



sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 20 Aug 2012 04:54

According to information I found on the web, and to several Public Family Trees on ancestry ...........


Richard Trewyn Runnells born 1827, Cornwall, died in Cornwall ............ not in Australia


Spouse: Jane Hillman Cawrse
F: Thomas Runnalls

Richard Trewyn Runnalls
Birth: 1827 - Cornwall, England
Death: 1878 - Camelford, Cornwall, England
Marriage: 17 Sep 1850 - St Neot, Cornwall, England
Spouse: Jane Hillman Cawrse


Other trees have him dying in 1878, St Breward, Cornwall.




where did you get your information that he died in Australia??????????/




sylvia

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 20 Aug 2012 11:41

I have asked poster to return and remove "answered"

and also to respond on here rather than by message

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 20 Aug 2012 21:11

Robert


please reply on the thread


just scroll down, and you will see a heading Add Your Reply

Type your message in the box underneath that, then click on Submit




Meanwhile ............... Robert has sent me the following pm, which may explain some details.................................


Hi Sylvia, there is a distant relative in Cornwall, that has supplied 46 pages of the Runnalls family tree. He isn't on the Internet, unfortunately. Richard is on the Cornwall census until 1861, but no later, and as my informant is renowned as a local Genealogist, I have no reason to disbelieve him. Many thanks for your reply. R. Keith Brewer.





I am puzzled by the fact that some of those trees on ancestry have an actual date and place for Richard's death in Cornwall ........ the problem is that none of them have posted a copy of the death certificate, so far as I can see.



But it does seem to be that there are 2 stories going around!



sylvia

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 20 Aug 2012 21:41

This is an old posting - but worth looking at:

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/CORNISH/1998-05/0894544734

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 20 Aug 2012 21:46

Well, it does look like Jane was back with her father in 1871:

CAWRSE, John Head M 78 1793 Cornwall
CAWRSE, Charles Son M 44 1827 Cornwall
CAWRSE, Ann Wife F 47 1824 Cornwall
CAWRSE, John Grandson M 20 1851 Cornwall
CAWRSE, Charles Grandson M 18 1853 Cornwall
CAWRSE, Joseph Grandson M 16 1855 Cornwall
CAWRSE, William Grandson M 14 1857 Cornwall
CAWRSE, George Grandson M 12 1859 Cornwall
CAWRSE, Mathew Grandson M 10 1861 Cornwall
CAWRSE, Henery Grandson M 8 1863 Cornwall
RUNNALLS, Jane Nurse F 46 1825 Cornwall
CHUDLEY, Emma Servant F 19 1852 Cornwall

Piece: 2240 Folio: 28 Page: 17
Registration District: Liskeard
Civil Parish: St Neot

Address: Lantuey, St Neot County: Cornwall

Where it gives her relationship as nurse I think that's an error. Nurse is also stated as her occupation.

Where are her children? Those listed look like they belong to her brother and his wife.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 20 Aug 2012 22:18

MC


the children seem to be dispersed ...... some are with grandparents.


I tried to find them last night, to see if it gave any lead to Richard.

I didn't post the relevant censuses as I assume that Robert has that information.


I did not however find Jane!!


I'm just very puzzled that those trees have very definite dates and places of death, in Cornwall

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 20 Aug 2012 22:20

I've tried a couple of times to get on trove, the Australian newspaper archives



my link wouldn't load last night or earlier today, and googling it took me to the National Archives, with the same email address I had.


But using that on Firefox, just told me it didn't exist any more


???????????????????





Must ask on Genealogy Chat to see if anyone knows!


MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 26 Aug 2012 20:05

pm:

"Hi Marie? , many thanks for your reply, and for passing on the information on my problem. I think that the Cornwall Census Project shows that Richard left Cornwall between 1861 and 1871 censuses. I am 99% certain that the death in Australia is correct, but it is just how Richard travelled to Australia that I would like to find out about. All the best."