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Finding Birth

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Norfolkboy

Norfolkboy Report 18 Aug 2012 19:20

I have Charles Woodrow Copland born Norwich, 1865, living London on the 1911 census.
Why can't i find his Birth and family on the 1871 census ??
Help Please.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 18 Aug 2012 19:25

Hello - have you found him on all other census? Who were his family?

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 18 Aug 2012 19:25

1891 Census RecordPersonal Information
Name Charles W Copland
Age 27
Estimated Year of Birth 1864
Relationship to Head of Household Servant
Occupation Footman Domestic Servant
Address Fawley Court Mansion, New Town Road
District Henley, Henley
Parish Fawley
Administrative County Oxfordshire
Birth Place Norwich
Birth County Norfolk
Reference Information
Folio 70
Page 9
Piece 1156

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 18 Aug 2012 19:27

His birth was easy to find on FreeBMD:

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Mar 1865
COPLAND Charley Woodrow Norwich 4b 113

(Slight variation)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 18 Aug 2012 19:29

1871:

COPLAND, William W Head M 28 1843 Norfolk < Joiner
COPLAND, Ruth M A Wife F 29 1842 Norfolk
COPLAND, Charley Son M 6 1865 Norfolk
COPLAND, Laura Daughter F 2 1869 Middlesex
COPLAND, Lousia M Daughter F 0 1871 Middlesex

(The daughters were born Chelsea, the Norfolk births are Norwich)

Piece: 88 Folio: 41 Page: 73
Registration District: Chelsea
Civil Parish: St Luke

Address: Hasker St, St Luke County: London, Middlesex

(Have changed census format)

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 18 Aug 2012 19:29

possible


1871 Census Household RecordHousehold Information
Address Market Street (Cross Keys Inn)
Parish Shipdham
District Mitford, Shipdham
Administrative County Norfolk

Householder 1
Name William Copland
Age 46
Estimated Year of Birth 1825
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation
Birth Place Norfolk
Birth County Norfolk

Householder 2
Name Elizabeth Copland
Age 40
Estimated Year of Birth 1831
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Birth Place Norfolk
Birth County Norfolk

Householder 3
Name Willm Walter Copland
Age 18
Estimated Year of Birth 1853
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation
Birth Place Norfolk
Birth County Norfolk

Householder 4
Name Charles Copland
Age 12
Estimated Year of Birth 1859
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Norfolk
Birth County Norfolk

Householder 5
Name Miriam Copland
Age 10
Estimated Year of Birth 1861
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Norfolk
Birth County Norfolk

Householder 6
Name Elizabeth Copland
Age 9
Estimated Year of Birth 1862
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Norfolk
Birth County Norfolk

Householder 7
Name Henry Copland
Age 6
Estimated Year of Birth 1865
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Norfolk
Birth County Norfolk

Householder 8
Name Herbert Copland
Age 2
Estimated Year of Birth 1869
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Norfolk
Birth County Norfolk


Norfolkboy

Norfolkboy Report 18 Aug 2012 19:33

Thank you , Thank you,
I knew i could rely on you people
Keep up the excellent work,
Much appreciated.

Andrew

Andrew Report 18 Aug 2012 19:33

Marriage

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1895 (>99%)
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Copland Charley Woodrow Chelsea 1a 703
Wicks Mary Ann Chelsea 1a 703


Andy

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 18 Aug 2012 19:40

Marriage confirms the father from earlier census:

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: Charley Woodrow Copland, bachelor. A butler of 96 Kepple Street
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Spouse Name: Mary Ann Wicks, a spinster of 91 Onslow Square.
Spouse Age: 28
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 4 Aug 1895
Parish: Chelsea Christ Church
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Father Name: William Woodrow Copland < Carpenter
Spouse Father Name: Samuel Wicks < Labourer
Register Type: Parish Register

Witnesses: David Thomson and Clara Wicks.

Andrew

Andrew Report 18 Aug 2012 19:48

Birth of daughter in 1902, but can't sree them in 1901

Births Mar 1902 (>99%)
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Copland Doris Eleanor Fulham 1a 331


Andy

Andrew

Andrew Report 18 Aug 2012 19:51

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Doris Eleanor Copland
Name: Doris Eleanor Copland
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1902
Baptism Date: 2 Mar 1902
Father's Name: Charley Woodrow Copland (Waiter)
Mother's Name: Mary Ann Copland
Parish or Poor Law Union: Walham Green
Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham
Register Type: Parish Registers


Address Grindle st?

Andy


Norfolkboy

Norfolkboy Report 18 Aug 2012 19:54

it keeps getting better,
Thank You.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 18 Aug 2012 20:01

Charles on the 1901?

FRASER, John Head Married M 39 1862 Upholsterer Marylebone, London
FRASER, Rose Wife Married F 40 1861 St Giles, London
CUMMINGS, Gilbert J Step Son Single M 17 1884 Upholsterer Apprentice Kensington, London
COPELAND, Charles Boarder Married M 35 1866 Butler (Domestic) Norwich, London Norfolk

Piece: 59 Folio: 107 Page: 8
Registration District: Fulham
Civil Parish: Fulham

Address: 25, Barclay Road, Fulham County: London

(The London Norfolk birthplace is a transcript error - it should just read Norfolk)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 18 Aug 2012 22:28

Where did you look when trying to find his birth?