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Death of a sailor?

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Phillip

Phillip Report 17 Aug 2012 17:07

Did he die? Did he jump ship? What ship did he sail on?

James Lowe, my gr-grandfather born 1854 married Alice Cooke in 1883. They had a son born 1884 also named James. They lived in Kingsholm, Gloucester, a poorer area of the City. In 1891 Alice was a housekeeper, James her spouce is not there. Alice married again in1894, she being a widower.

James Lowe (son) married in 1913; on the certificate it states his father is a sailor and dead. Only thing is I can't find a death certificate, if he died at sea where can I look.
What ship did he sail on? Gloucester was a busy port back then and Bristol is only a few miles away.
Last of all where did he come from, all I know is he was born 1854 and is father was John Lowe :-S

Janice

Janice Report 17 Aug 2012 17:09

There's a deaths at sea index on FMP I think.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 17 Aug 2012 17:14

The only ones I could find, first two are the same person.


Name:LOWE, J H
Date of death:29 November 1890
Age:38
Place of death:At Sea
Place of birth:Hampshire
Port received from:
Ship's name:Dane
Series:BT156 - Monthly Lists of Deaths of Seamen
Box:0004
Page:12


: LOWE, J H
Vessel : Dane
Country: At sea
Year: 1890
Page: 182
Age at death: 38
Record source: GRO Marine Death Indices (1846 to 1902)

Name: LOWE, J William
Vessel : Elizabeth
Country: At sea
Year: 1891
Page: 9
Age at death: ADULT
Record source: GRO Marine Death Indices (1846 to 1902)

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 17 Aug 2012 17:21


There is this but doesn't look overly likely. Do you have an occupation for his father?

1881 England Census

Name: James Lowe
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Gender: Male
Where born: West Drayton Uxbridge, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Vessels
County/Island: Royal Navy
Country: England

Street Address: "Gannet"
Education:

Employment status:

View image
Occupation: Private R M L I

Registration district: Royal Navy
Sub-registration district: Royal Navy
ED, institution, or vessel: Foam
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 5642
Folio: 72
Page Number: 6

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 17 Aug 2012 17:25

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/browse-refine.asp?CatID=15&searchType=browserefine&pagenumber=1&query=*&queryType=1

(Navy Record above, but born 1851)

Chris :)

Flip

Flip Report 17 Aug 2012 17:53

Do you have a copy of the marriage certificate to get more details - occupation, fathers occupation etc?

Marriages Sep 1883 (>99%)
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COOKE Alice Gloucester 6a 467
Lowe James Gloucester 6a 467
PERRIN Susan Gloucester 6a 467
Price William Gloucester 6a 467

Flip

Flip Report 17 Aug 2012 18:15

So, she married the man she was housekeeping for in 1891:

Marriages Mar 1894 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Bennett Albert Henry Gloucester 6a 440
Gough Martha Frances Gloucester 6a 440
Lowe Alice Gloucester 6a 440 <<<<<
Oakeley Charles Gloucester 6a 440 <<<<<
Oakley Charles Gloucester 6a 440

Ancestry is playing up, otherwise I'd have posted up the census.

Janice

Janice Report 17 Aug 2012 18:18

Is this the one?
14 Alvin St, Gloucester

Name: Charles Oakley
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Newent, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: St John the Baptist
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Gloucester
Sub-registration district: St John the Baptist
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2014
Folio: 107
Page Number: 8

Charles Oakley 36
Alice Lowe 26
James Oakley 7 *****this is Lowe on the image

Flip

Flip Report 18 Aug 2012 07:03

In 1911, Alice is married again, James still with them:

James Lowe
Age in 1911: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Gloucester
Civil parish: Gloucester
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street Address: No 61 Worcester Street, Gloucester
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: General Labourer
Registration district: Gloucester
Registration District Number: 325
Sub-registration district: Gloucester Northern
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 113
Piece: 15284
Household Members: Name Age
John Alfred Daniels 53
Alice Daniels 46
Elizabeth Daniels 21
Beatrice Daniels 19
James Lowe 27
Leslie Daniels 4
Arthur Lockwood 28
Edward Pritchard 38
M G Pritchard 36

But in 1901 I think this is him, but registered as Oakley, with the above family:

John Daniels
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Gloucester
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Baptist
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Gloucester
Sub-registration district: St John the Baptist
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 203
Piece: 2426
Folio: 93
Page Number: 34
Household Members: Name Age
John Daniels 39
Charles Daniels 20
Frederick Daniels 16
Elizabeth Daniels 12
Beatrice Daniels 9
James Oakley 17

Can't see Alice though, but Charley Oakley is with his cousins, still down as married.

Phillip

Phillip Report 25 Sep 2012 15:19

Thank you all above for your help