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Phillip
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17 Aug 2012 17:07 |
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Did he die? Did he jump ship? What ship did he sail on?
James Lowe, my gr-grandfather born 1854 married Alice Cooke in 1883. They had a son born 1884 also named James. They lived in Kingsholm, Gloucester, a poorer area of the City. In 1891 Alice was a housekeeper, James her spouce is not there. Alice married again in1894, she being a widower.
James Lowe (son) married in 1913; on the certificate it states his father is a sailor and dead. Only thing is I can't find a death certificate, if he died at sea where can I look. What ship did he sail on? Gloucester was a busy port back then and Bristol is only a few miles away. Last of all where did he come from, all I know is he was born 1854 and is father was John Lowe :-S
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Janice
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17 Aug 2012 17:09 |
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There's a deaths at sea index on FMP I think.
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Kucinta
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17 Aug 2012 17:14 |
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The only ones I could find, first two are the same person.
Name:LOWE, J H Date of death:29 November 1890 Age:38 Place of death:At Sea Place of birth:Hampshire Port received from: Ship's name:Dane Series:BT156 - Monthly Lists of Deaths of Seamen Box:0004 Page:12
: LOWE, J H Vessel : Dane Country: At sea Year: 1890 Page: 182 Age at death: 38 Record source: GRO Marine Death Indices (1846 to 1902)
Name: LOWE, J William Vessel : Elizabeth Country: At sea Year: 1891 Page: 9 Age at death: ADULT Record source: GRO Marine Death Indices (1846 to 1902)
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brummiejan
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17 Aug 2012 17:21 |
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There is this but doesn't look overly likely. Do you have an occupation for his father?
1881 England Census
Name: James Lowe Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855 Gender: Male Where born: West Drayton Uxbridge, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Vessels County/Island: Royal Navy Country: England Street Address: "Gannet" Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Private R M L I Registration district: Royal Navy Sub-registration district: Royal Navy ED, institution, or vessel: Foam Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 5642 Folio: 72 Page Number: 6
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Chris Ho :)
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17 Aug 2012 17:25 |
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http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/browse-refine.asp?CatID=15&searchType=browserefine&pagenumber=1&query=*&queryType=1
(Navy Record above, but born 1851)
Chris :)
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Flip
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17 Aug 2012 17:53 |
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Do you have a copy of the marriage certificate to get more details - occupation, fathers occupation etc?
Marriages Sep 1883 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- COOKE Alice Gloucester 6a 467 Lowe James Gloucester 6a 467 PERRIN Susan Gloucester 6a 467 Price William Gloucester 6a 467
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17 Aug 2012 18:15 |
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So, she married the man she was housekeeping for in 1891:
Marriages Mar 1894 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bennett Albert Henry Gloucester 6a 440 Gough Martha Frances Gloucester 6a 440 Lowe Alice Gloucester 6a 440 <<<<< Oakeley Charles Gloucester 6a 440 <<<<< Oakley Charles Gloucester 6a 440
Ancestry is playing up, otherwise I'd have posted up the census.
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Janice
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17 Aug 2012 18:18 |
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Is this the one? 14 Alvin St, Gloucester
Name: Charles Oakley Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Newent, Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: St John the Baptist Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Registration district: Gloucester Sub-registration district: St John the Baptist ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2014 Folio: 107 Page Number: 8
Charles Oakley 36 Alice Lowe 26 James Oakley 7 *****this is Lowe on the image
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Flip
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18 Aug 2012 07:03 |
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In 1911, Alice is married again, James still with them:
James Lowe Age in 1911: 27 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884 Gender: Male Birth Place: Gloucester Civil parish: Gloucester County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street Address: No 61 Worcester Street, Gloucester Marital Status: Single Occupation: General Labourer Registration district: Gloucester Registration District Number: 325 Sub-registration district: Gloucester Northern ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Household schedule number: 113 Piece: 15284 Household Members: Name Age John Alfred Daniels 53 Alice Daniels 46 Elizabeth Daniels 21 Beatrice Daniels 19 James Lowe 27 Leslie Daniels 4 Arthur Lockwood 28 Edward Pritchard 38 M G Pritchard 36 But in 1901 I think this is him, but registered as Oakley, with the above family:
John Daniels Age: 39 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Gloucester Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Baptist County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street Address:
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Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Gloucester Sub-registration district: St John the Baptist ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 203 Piece: 2426 Folio: 93 Page Number: 34 Household Members: Name Age John Daniels 39 Charles Daniels 20 Frederick Daniels 16 Elizabeth Daniels 12 Beatrice Daniels 9 James Oakley 17 Can't see Alice though, but Charley Oakley is with his cousins, still down as married.
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Phillip
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25 Sep 2012 15:19 |
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Thank you all above for your help
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