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Thanks again everyone I will do as Reggie suggests and try and find out who his parents are, because the children do not accord with the suggested parents, ie Andrew Trotman and his wife Sarah.

1881 England Census about Fred Trotman
Name: Fred Trotman
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph Trotman
Mother's Name: Annis Trotman
Gender: Male
Where born: Stancombe, Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: Stinchcombe
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street Address: Lodge
Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Dursley
Sub-registration district: Dursley
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2520
Folio: 146
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Trotman 36
Annis Trotman 36
John Trotman 7
Frank Trotman 6
George Trotman 4
Fred Trotman 3
William Trotman

The person calling theirself "Lostme board name" you have the right Frederick, but why I cannot find him on the 1881 census is a mystery, I have tried Family Search also.

Thank you everyone for your help,.

Keith

1891 England Census about Fred Latman
Name: Fred Latman
[Fred Latman (tratman)]
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph Latman
Mother's Name: Annis Latman
Gender: Male
Where born: Dursley, Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: Berkeley
Ecclesiastical parish: Berkeley
Town: Lower Wick
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Thornbury
Sub-registration district: Berkeley
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2000
Folio: 40
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Latman 45
Annis Latman 45
John Latman 17
Frank Latman 16
George Latman 14
Fred Latman 13
William Latman 10
Alice M Latman 7
Norah L Latman 3

1871 Census Household RecordHousehold Information
Address Pedington
Parish Berkeley
District Thornbury, Berkeley
Administrative County Gloucestershire

Householder 1
Name Andrew Trotman
Age 45
Estimated Year of Birth 1826
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation
Birth Place Gloucestershire
Birth County Gloucestershire

Householder 2
Name Sarah Ann Trotman
Age 35
Estimated Year of Birth 1836
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Birth Place Gloucestershire
Birth County Gloucestershire

Householder 3
Name William Trotman
Age 15
Estimated Year of Birth 1856
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Gloucestershire
Birth County Gloucestershire

Householder 4
Name George Trotman
Age 13
Estimated Year of Birth 1858
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Gloucestershire
Birth County Gloucestershire

Householder 5
Name Eliza Trotman
Age 11
Estimated Year of Birth 1860
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Gloucestershire
Birth County Gloucestershire

Householder 6
Name Louisa Trotman
Age 8
Estimated Year of Birth 1863
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Gloucestershire
Birth County Gloucestershire

Householder 7
Name Minnie Trotman
Age 5
Estimated Year of Birth 1866
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Gloucestershire
Birth County Gloucestershire

Householder 8
Name John Trotman
Age 2
Estimated Year of Birth 1869
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Gloucestershire
Birth County Gloucestershire

Householder 9
Name Frederick Trotman
Age 0
Estimated Year of Birth 1871
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Gloucestershire
Birth County Gloucestershire

1891 Census Household RecordHousehold Information
Address Ham
Parish Berkeley
District Thornbury, Berkeley Berkeley
Administrative County Gloucestershire

Householder 1
Name John King
Age 58
Estimated Year of Birth 1833
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Haulier
Birth Place Berkeley
Birth County Gloucestershire

Householder 2
Name Louisa King
Age 55
Estimated Year of Birth 1836
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Birth Place Berkeley
Birth County Gloucestershire

Householder 3
Name Florence Lottie King
Age 18
Estimated Year of Birth 1873
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Dressmaker
Birth Place Berkeley
Birth County Gloucestershire

Householder 4
Name Frederick Trotman
Age 19
Estimated Year of Birth 1872
Relationship to Head of Household Nephew
Occupation General Labourer
Birth Place Berkeley
Birth County Gloucestershire

You must know who his mother was..................so you can work out which 1901 is right

1881 Census Household RecordHousehold Information
Address
Parish Ham With Stone
District Thornbury, Berkeley
Administrative County Gloucestershire

Householder 1
Name Andrew Trotman
Age 57
Estimated Year of Birth 1824
Relationship to Head of Household Head Mar
Occupation (Game) Keeper
Birth Place Woodford
Birth County Gloucestershire

Householder 2
Name Sarah A Trotman
Age 45
Estimated Year of Birth 1836
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation (Game) Keepers Wife
Birth Place Pedington
Birth County Gloucestershire

Householder 3
Name George Trotman
Age 23
Estimated Year of Birth 1858
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Labourer
Birth Place Pedington
Birth County Gloucestershire

Householder 4
Name John Trotman
Age 12
Estimated Year of Birth 1869
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Pedington
Birth County Gloucestershire

Householder 5
Name Frederick Trotman
Age 10
Estimated Year of Birth 1871
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Pedington
Birth County Gloucestershire

Householder 6
Name Thomas Trotman
Age 4
Estimated Year of Birth 1877
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Pedington
Birth County Gloucestershire

Householder 7
Name John King
Age 82
Estimated Year of Birth 1799
Relationship to Head of Household Father In Law
Occupation Basket Maker
Birth Place Pedington
Birth County Gloucestershire

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Frederick Walter Trotman
Name: Frederick Walter Trotman
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1901
Registration district: Thornbury
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume Number: 6a
Page Number: 551

1901 England Census
about Fred Tratman
Name: Fred Tratman
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph Tratman
Mother's Name: Annis Tratman
Gender: Male
Where born: Berkeley, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Alkington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary the Virgin
Town: Hogsdown and Lower Wick
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Thornbury
Sub-registration district: Berkeley
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 84
Piece: 2413
Folio: 20
Page Number: 14
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Tratman 56
Annis Tratman 56
Fred Tratman 22
Alice Tratman 17
Norah Tratman 13

1911 census
Reg. District: Dursley
Sub District: Wotton under Edge
Parish: Wotton under Edge
Enum. District: 1
Address: Bradley Green Wotton under Edge
County: Gloucestershire


TROTMAN, Fredrick Walter Head Widower M 39 1872 General Labourer Dursley Gloushire
DANCOX, Kate Elizabeth Housekeeper Married F 29 1882 House Duties Wottounderedge Gloucestershire
TROTMAN, Edward Dennis Son M 10 1901 School Wottounderedge Gloucestershire
TROTMAN, Martha Daughter F 8 1903 Wottounderedge Gloucestershire

TROTMAN, Fredrick Walter Son M 3 1908 Wottounderedge Gloucestershire

TROTMAN, Gertie May Daughter F 2 1909 Wottounderedge Gloucestershire

TROTMAN, George William Son M 0 (10 MONTHS) 1911 Wottounderedge Gloucestershire


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Not according to 1911 census, he wasn't!

Name: Frederick Walter Trotman
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1901
Registration district: Thornbury
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume Number: 6a
Page Number: 551



Name: Frederick Trotman
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Sarah Trotman
Gender: Male
Where born: Pedington, Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: Ham and Stone
Ecclesiastical parish: Berkeley
Town: Pedington
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Registration district: Thornbury
Sub-registration district: Berkeley
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 59
Piece: 2413
Folio: 125
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
Sarah Trotman 65
Frederick Trotman 30

He was born in Wotton-under-Edge.

Born where??????

Can anyone please help, I have a 1911 census with the said Frederick Walter trotman aged 39 so born in 1872 head of family and a widower.
Have tried to find the family in the 1901 census with no results, am I missing something here. I have all his children, Edward, Martha,Frederick jr Gertie and George. He also has his house keeper living with them a Kate Lancox.

Keith