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Thank you ................... Janice and all


I do believe they are the correct line ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


fingers crossed

and this one. Address is Sussex road again

Name: Martha Ainslie Vine
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1859
Baptism Date: 27 Aug 1859
Father's Name: Charles Vine
Mother's Name: Martha Vine
Parish or Poor Law Union: Brixton St John the Evangelist
Borough: Lambeth
Register Type: Parish Registers

This is one of their children :

Name: Leonard Edward Vine
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1853
Baptism Date: 6 Mar 1853
Father's Name: Charles Vine
Mother's Name: Martha Vine
Parish or Poor Law Union: Brixton St Matthew
Borough: Lambeth
Register Type: Parish Registers

The baptisms are on Ancestry:

London, England, Birth and baptisms

I think he was known as Charles. On the baptismal entry for Eliza Ann, it looks as though the Richard was inserted as an afterthought.

just found this ----- Not sure why he put Richard Charles on marriage cert

looks like I need another birth cert

Name: Charles Vine
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Spouse Name: Martha Jones
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 17 Aug 1845
Parish: Lambeth St Mary
Borough: Lambeth
Father Name: Richard Vine
Spouse Father Name: William Jones
Register Type: Parish Register

Thank you Janice as well

Thanks that looks good


are the baptisms from LMA

Well !! Lostmyboardname and Andy ..... thank you

........ perhaps that is them ?

This is Eliza's baptism: the addresses match (Sussex Road)

Name: Eliza Ann Vine
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1851
Baptism Date: 14 May 1851
Father's Name: Charles Richard Vine
Mother's Name: Martha Vine
Parish or Poor Law Union: Brixton St Matthew
Borough: Lambeth
Register Type: Parish Registers

1851 census 42, Sussex Road, Lambeth

RG number: HO107
Piece: 1575
Folio: 166
Page: 36
Reg. District: Lambeth
Sub District: Brixton
Parish: Lambeth
Enum. District: 6
Ecclesiastical District: Brixton
City/Municipal Borough: Lambeth
Address: 42, Sussex Road, Lambeth
County: Surrey

VINE, Charles Head Married M 36 1815 Laborer
Edmonton, Middlesex
VINE, Martha Wife Married F 28 1823
Lorton, Sussex

thanks for looking -

- I have looked at that but hoped to see ""Richard Charles Vine"" or at

very least a ""Richard Vine""

Maybe

1861 England Census
about Chas Vine
Name: Chas Vine
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1812
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Martha Vine
Gender: Male
Where born: Edmonton

Civil parish: Lambeth
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Brixton
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 214
Piece: 364
Folio: 111
Page Number: 37
Household Members: Name Age
Chas Vine 49
Martha Vine 36
>>>>>William Vine 14
Alfred Vine 11
Eliza Vine 10
Leonard Vine 8
James Vine 10 Months

Charles could be Charles Richard.
Possible baptism for daughter Eliza

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Eliza Ann Vine
Name: Eliza Ann Vine
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1851
Baptism Date: 14 May 1851
Father's Name: Charles Richard Vine
Mother's Name: Martha Vine
Parish or Poor Law Union: Brixton St Matthew
Borough: Lambeth
Register Type: Parish Registers



Andy

how about this one ????

1861 census 37, Sussex Road, Lambeth
RG number: RG09
Piece: 364
Folio: 111
Page: 37
Reg. District: Lambeth
Sub District: 7 Brixton
Parish: Lambeth
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: St Johns
City/Municipal Borough: Lambeth
Address: 37, Sussex Road, Lambeth
County: London, Surrey
VINE, Chas Head Married M 49 1812 Carman
Edmonton
VINE, Martha Wife Married F 36 1825
Langton, Surrey
VINE, William Son M 14 1847
Lambeth
VINE, Alfred Son M 11 1850
Lambeth
VINE, Eliza Daughter F 10 1851
Lambeth
VINE, Leonard Son M 8 1853
Lambeth
VINE, James Son M 0 (10M) 1861
Lambeth

Can anyone find William Vine 1847 before this 1871 Census please

1871 census transcription details for: Ingleton Street, St Mary, Lambeth
RG number: RG10 Piece: 678 Folio: 90 Page: 22
Reg. District: Lambeth Sub District: Kennington 2nd Part
Parish: St Mary Enum. District: 20
Address: Ingleton Street, St Mary, Lambeth County: London, Surrey
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
VINE, William Head M 24 1847 Labourer Lambeth Surrey
VINE, Hannah Wife F 20 1851 Islington Middlesex
VINE, William Son M 0 1871 Lambeth Surrey

Married Hannah Thomas 7 Nov 1869 Lambeth St Mary --- His father given as Richard Charles Vine dec·d