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SylviaInCanada
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16 Aug 2012 01:09 |
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Roy
I always check the images for all censuses .............
.... like you, I want to know the exact details, and to see if the transcription is correct.
............. but you were faster than me today! :-D :-D
sylvia
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+++DetEcTive+++
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15 Aug 2012 23:27 |
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A nurse child was a foster child :-)
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Lynda
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15 Aug 2012 23:21 |
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Many thanks for everyones help.What is a nurse child?
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Porkie_Pie
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15 Aug 2012 22:12 |
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MarieCeleste, Good point,
Better to get a subscription to sites that are not pay per view
Roy
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15 Aug 2012 21:49 |
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I think the problem Roy is that if people are using pay per view credits to search records then it costs them more to view the original ....
(If that's not the case then there's no excuse!)
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Porkie_Pie
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15 Aug 2012 21:47 |
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Sylvia, I had posted most of the details in my first post,
I think it may just be that i remember searching census and bmd indexes before they where transcribed so you only ever looked at the images
So i always check the actual image,
I do wish others would check images to confirm the transcription is correct
Roy
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SylviaInCanada
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15 Aug 2012 21:40 |
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snap, Roy :-D
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SylviaInCanada
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15 Aug 2012 21:39 |
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The dead child might be ........
Edith Lilian Ingram
Sidney listed her between Charles Frederick and Maud ...................
..... and this is the reason why there are 11 names on the census but only 10 on the Record.
sylvia
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SylviaInCanada
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15 Aug 2012 21:34 |
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She is Ingram on the ancestry record
Name: Emily Elizabeth Ingram Age in 1911: 46 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Birth Place: London, United Kingdom Civil parish: Camberwell County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 74 Rosemary Road, Peckham S E Marital Status: Married Years Married: 25 Estimated Marriage Year: 1886
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15 Aug 2012 21:33 |
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here is the one i posted from Ancestry
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1911England&indiv=try&h=3977214
the one missing is Edith Lilian who was crossed off the census
Deaths Mar 1906 INGRAM Edith Lilian 6 Southwark 1d 24
Roy
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SylviaInCanada
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15 Aug 2012 21:33 |
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That's the way Sudney filled out the form, for some reason!!
They've been married 25 years.
Had 8 children, 7 still alive.
and the one Nellie Robert is a Nurse Child
That's interesting .......... the transcriber has missed someone off the record!!
I wondered why Emily Elizabeth was not coloured yellow like the others
There are 11 names on the census, and only 10 on the record!
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SylviaInCanada
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15 Aug 2012 21:28 |
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That's the one that I've just found!!
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SylviaInCanada
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15 Aug 2012 21:27 |
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could you please post the census??
I'm trying to find it so I can take a look, but not having much success
Thank you
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PollyPoppet
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15 Aug 2012 21:25 |
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1911 Census Household RecordHousehold information Address 74 Rosemary Road Peckham Parish Camberwell Town Peckham Type of Building Private House Number of Rooms Five Rooms Inhabited Y Reference RG14PN2527 RG78PN85 RD27 SD4 ED8 SN416 Administrative County London Registration District Camberwell Registration Sub District St George Enumeration District 8
Householder 1 Name Sidney John Ingram Relationship to Head of Household Father Condition / Years Married Married Gender M Age 47 Estimated Year of Birth 1864 Occupation Baker Journeyman Employed Y Working at Home Y Industry Bake House Place of Birth Wilts Salisbury Nationality English
Householder 2 Name Albert Edward Ingram Relationship to Head of Household Son Condition / Years Married Single Gender M Age 19 Estimated Year of Birth 1892 Occupation Grocers Assistant Employed Y Working at Home Y Place of Birth London Lambeth Nationality English
Householder 3 Name Rose Ethel Ingram Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Condition / Years Married Single Gender F Age 17 Estimated Year of Birth 1894 Occupation Collar Machiness Employed Y Working at Home Y Place of Birth London Pimlico Nationality English
Householder 4 Name Sidney John Ingram Relationship to Head of Household Son Condition / Years Married Single Gender M Age 22 Estimated Year of Birth 1889 Occupation H M Navy Cooks Mate0 Employed Y Working at Home N Place of Birth London Pimlico Nationality English
Householder 5 Name Mable Ingram Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Condition / Years Married Single Gender F Age 15 Estimated Year of Birth 1896 Occupation Juvenile Employed N Working at Home N Place of Birth London Pimlico Nationality English
Householder 6 Name Charles Frederick Ingram Relationship to Head of Household Son Gender M Age 13 Estimated Year of Birth 1898 Occupation Juvenile Employed N Working at Home N Place of Birth London Peckham Nationality English
Householder 7 Name Maud Ingram Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Gender F Age 8 Estimated Year of Birth 1903 Occupation Juvenile Employed N Working at Home N Place of Birth London Peckham Nationality English
Householder 8 Name George Ingram Relationship to Head of Household Son Gender M Age 2 Estimated Year of Birth 1909 Occupation Juvenile Employed N Working at Home N Place of Birth London Peckham Nationality English
Householder 9 Name Nellie Roberts Relationship to Head of Household Nurse Child Gender F Age 4 Estimated Year of Birth 1907 Occupation Juvenile Employed N Working at Home N Place of Birth London Peckham Nationality English
Householder 10 Name Emily Elizabeth Roberts Relationship to Head of Household Wife Condition / Years Married Married / 25 Years Total Children Born Alive 8 Children Still Living 7 Children Who Have Died 1 Gender F Age 46 Estimated Year of Birth 1865 Employed N Working at Home N Place of Birth London Lambeth Nationality English
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MarieCeleste
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15 Aug 2012 21:23 |
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Hello Lynda - where were they in 1911 so we can take a look?
EDIT, it's a mis-transcription - she's Ingram on the original:
INGRAM, Sidney John Father Married M 47 1864 Baker Journeyman Wilts Salisbury INGRAM, Albert Edward Son Single M 19 1892 Grocers Assistant London Lambeth INGRAM, Rose Ethel Daughter Single F 17 1894 Collar Machiness London Pimlico INGRAM, Sidney John Son Single M 22 1889 H M Navy Cooks Mate0 London Pimlico INGRAM, Mable Daughter Single F 15 1896 London Pimlico INGRAM, Charles Frederick Son M 13 1898 London Peckham INGRAM, Maud Daughter F 8 1903 London Peckham INGRAM, George Son M 2 1909 London Peckham ROBERTS, Nellie Nurse Child F 4 1907 London Peckham ROBERTS, Emily Elizabeth Wife Married 25 years F 46 1865 London Lambeth
RG number: RG14 Piece: 2527 Reference: RG14PN2527 RG78PN85 RD27 SD4 ED8 SN416 Registration District: Camberwell Sub District: St George Enumeration District: 8 Parish: Camberwell
Address: 74 Rosemary Road Peckham County: London
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15 Aug 2012 21:22 |
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Looks like your reading it wrong their is only one person in that household with the name Robert
Nellie Robert 4 listed as a nurse child
Name: Emily Elizabeth Ingram Age in 1911: 46 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Birth Place: London, United Kingdom Civil parish: Camberwell County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 74 Rosemary Road, Peckham S E Marital Status: Married Years Married: 25 Estimated Marriage Year: 1886 Registration district: Camberwell Registration District Number: 27 Sub-registration district: St George ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Piece: 2527 Household Members: Name Age Sidney John Ingram 47 Albert Edward Ingram 19 Rose Ethel Ingram 17 Sidney John Ingram 22 Mable Ingram 15 Charles Frederick Ingram 13 Maud Ingram 8 George Ingram 2 Nellie Robert 4 Emily Elizabeth Ingram 46
Strange that his wife Emily Elizabeth is listed at the bottom of the page? Roy
Edit, this is from Ancestry, I have checked the image and it clearly states her name as Emily Elizabeth Ingram
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Lynda
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15 Aug 2012 21:13 |
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My greatgrandfather Sidney Ingram born 1864 married Emily Elizabeth Purchall in 1887 but in 1911 census she has the surname Roberts and all the children except one are Ingrams but the youngest is Roberts
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