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Hi all, I was hoping someone may be able to help!
One of my grandfathers brothers was born in France (i think) as I know the family lived there for some years and the only sibbling i cannot find on Ancestry must have been born there.
I have no idea how to go about finding his birth as i know nothing on french records or even be able to read beyond a few basic words in french, any help in tracing a birth would be much appreciated!
His name is Marcel John Lymer and on his marriage certificate he should have been born around 1921, many thanks in advance for any help or suggestions!
Robbie
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No he died just a few years ago around 2007ish i think and that was back in England, he was only in France when he was born and i'm unsure how long the family were there for
thank you for your reply
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the Lymer's seem to have been in France for centuries - e.g.
Nicolas
France, Births and Baptisms, 1546-1896
christening: 20 Feb 1689 GANDRANGE,? MOSELLE,? FRANCE
residence: Gandrange,? Moselle,? France
parents: Bernard Lymer,? Georgette D'Avanty
Elisabeth
France, Births and Baptisms, 1546-1896
christening: 26 Jun 1689 GANDRANGE,? MOSELLE,? FRANCE
residence: Gandrange,? Moselle,? France
parents: Gyrard Lymer,? Chaterine Solomon
Jean
France, Births and Baptisms, 1546-1896
christening: 28 Jan 1691 GANDRANGE,? MOSELLE,? FRANCE
residence: Gandrange,? Moselle,? France
parents: Bernard Lymer,? ... D'AVANTY
Jean
France, Births and Baptisms, 1546-1896
christening: 08 Jul 1691 GANDRANGE,? MOSELLE,? FRANCE
residence: Gandrange,? Moselle,? France
parents: Gyrard Lymer,? Chaterine Seromon
Hans Friderich Lymer
France, Births and Baptisms, 1546-1896
birth: STRASBOURG,? NEUE KIRCHE,? BAS-?RHIN,? FRANCE
christening: 18 Jun 1615 Strasbourg,? Bas-?Rhin,? France
residence: Strasbourg,? Bas-?Rhin,? France
parents: Hans Heinrich Lymer,? Catharina
Jean Antoine
France, Births and Baptisms, 1546-1896
birth: 27 Dec 1812
christening: 28 Dec 1812 STRASBOURG,? BAS-?RHIN,? FRANCE
death: 29 Sep 1839
residence: 1812 Strasbourg,? Bas-?Rhin,? France
parents: Jean Lymer,? Anne Marie Bitzberger
Elisabeth Lymer
France, Births and Baptisms, 1546-1896
birth: 1689
christening: 26 Jun 1689 Gandrange,? Moselle,? France
parents: Gyrard Lymer,? Chaterine Solomon
William Lymer
England, Warwickshire Parish Registers, 1538-1900
residence: 17 Sep 1899 Of This Parish
marriage: 17 Sep 1899 Knowle,? Warwickshire,? England
spouse: Lucy Marston
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as you can see, Strasbourg and Gadrange seem to be the two places of origin
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Last name: Lymer
This interesting surname is of Anglo-Saxon origin, and is an occupational name for a whitewasher. It derives from a derivative of the Olde English pre 7th Century "lim", lime, with the addition of the agent suffix "er" (one who does or works with). A whitewasher whitens walls and other surfaces, using a substance consisting of a suspension of lime in water. Job descriptive surnames originally denoted the actual occupational of the namebearer, and later became hereditary. The surname is first recorded in the early 13th Century (see below), and is also found as Limer. One, John le Limer, is noted in the Hundred Rolls of Huntingdonshire (1279). Recordings of the surnames from London Church Registers include; Jonne Lymer, who was christened on February 5th 1552 at St. Andrews, Enfield; William, son of Edward Lymer, who was christened on November 20th 1577 at St. Andrew's, Holborn; and John Lymer who married Jane Pattinson on February 4th 1592 at St. Giles', Cripplegate. The Coat of Arms most associated with the family is red with a pale lozengy silver, the Crest being a lion's head couped per pale indented silver and red. The first recorded spelling of the family name is shown to be that of Thomas Lymer (witness), which was dated 1219, in the "Assize Court Rolls of Yorkshire", during the reign of King Henry 111, known as "The Frenchman", 1216-1272. Surnames became necessary when governments introduced personal taxation. In England this was known as Poll Tax. Throughout the centuries, surnames in every country have continued to "develop" often leading to astonishing variants of the original spelling.
Read more: http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Lymer#ixzz232Bn4iHo
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More and more French records are coming on-line all the time and apart from the very early ones your French does not have to be brilliant to be able to read them - they all follow a pretty standard format. You really need to know the town or commune of origin tho', France is a very big country.
In the case of your Great Uncle you may be unlucky - see below
'Records of civil registration are typically held in registries in local town halls (mairie). Copies of these registries are deposited each year with the local magistrate's court and then, when they are 100 years old, are placed in the archives for the town's Department. Due to privacy regulations, only records over 100 years old may be consulted by the public. It is possible to obtain access to the more recent records, but you will generally be required to prove, through the use of birth certificates, your direct descent from the person in question'.
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many thanks for all your help, it would seem that i may have to wait for the 100 year rule!
My surname is fairly unique, it has been generally been quite straightforward to trace!
thanks again for all your help
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