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7 Aug 2012 15:24 |
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I recently found that my great great grandmother Harriet Ann Kirby had an illigitimate child called Arthur William Kirby before she married my great great grandfather Charles Lamb. Harriet was living at Wyers Farm, Stratfield Saye, Hampshire with her parents and this is where Arthur was born and baptised. He was born 6 Jun 1883 and was baptised on 26 Aug that same year. I'd like to know what happened to him. I haven't found a death record for him but he isn't on the 1891 census with Harriet and her husband Charles. Either he died, went to live with one of Harriet's relatives or was given away. Any help would be very much appreciated.
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7 Aug 2012 15:34 |
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Arthur W Kirby England and Wales Census, 1901 birth: 1883 Up Somborne,? Hampshire census: 31 Mar 1901 Kings Somborne,? Hampshire,? England name: Arthur W Kirby event: Census event date: 31 Mar 1901 gender: Male age: 18 relationship to head of household: Son birthplace: Up Somborne, Hampshire record type: Household registration district: Stockbridge sub-district: Stockbridge ecclesiastical parish: St Peter & St Paul civil parish: Kings Somborne county: Hampshire
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AnnCardiff
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7 Aug 2012 15:35 |
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Arthur W Kirby England and Wales Census, 1891 birth: Upper Somborne,? Hampshire census: 1891 England name: Arthur W Kirby event: Census event date: 1891 gender: Male age: 8 relationship to head of household: Son birthplace: Upper Somborne, Hampshire record type: Household registration district: Stockbridge sub-district: Stockbridge ecclesiastical parish: St Peter & St Paul civil parish: Kings Somborne county: Hampshire
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7 Aug 2012 15:36 |
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Harriet Ann Kirby England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 birth: 30 Jan 1863 christening: 29 Mar 1863 STRATFIELD SAYE,?HAMPSHIRE,?ENGLAND parents: David Kirby,? Ellen
name: Harriet Ann Kirby gender: Female baptism/christening date: 29 Mar 1863 baptism/christening place: STRATFIELD SAYE,HAMPSHIRE,ENGLAND birth date: 30 Jan 1863 father's name: David Kirby mother's name: Ellen indexing project (batch) number: K13944-2 system origin: England-ODM source film number: 1041371
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7 Aug 2012 15:37 |
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Harriet Ann Lamb England and Wales Census, 1911 birth: Stratfieldsaye,? Hampshire census: 1911 Woodley Wandford,? Near Twyford,? Berkshire,? England name: Harriet Ann Lamb event: Census event date: 1911 gender: Female age: 49 birthplace: Stratfieldsaye, Hampshire record type: Household registration district: Wokingham sub-district: Wargrave parish: Woodley Wandford county: Berkshire
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Christina(Lancashire)
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7 Aug 2012 15:57 |
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Is this him living with his aunt & uncle?
1891 England Census about Arthur Wm Kirby Name: Arthur Wm Kirby Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884 Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: Earley, Berkshire, England Civil parish: St Giles Ecclesiastical parish: St Giles Town: Reading County/Island: Berkshire Country: England Street Address: Registration district: Reading Sub-registration district: St Giles ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 994 Folio: 150 Page Number: 33 Household Members: Name Age William Tarrant 36 Jane Tarrant 32 ....Strathfieldsaye, Hampshire, England Kate Emily Tarrant 14 Ellen Tarrant 10 Edith Maud Tarrant 4 Arthur Wm Kirby 7 Harry Wm Briley 22 ......Kirby on image, born in Stratfield Saye Marriages Sep 1876 (>99%)
KIRBY Jane Basingstoke 2c 333 Parrant William Basingstoke 2c 333
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Christina(Lancashire)
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7 Aug 2012 16:03 |
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He's still living with the Parrants in 1901....
1901 England Census Name: Arthur Kirley Age: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882 Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: Reading, Berkshire, England Civil parish: St Giles Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew County/Island: Berkshire Country: England Registration district: Reading Sub-registration district: St Giles ED, institution, or vessel: 27 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 34 Piece: 1151 Folio: 137 Page Number: 6 Household Members: Name Age William Parrast 45 Jane Parrast 42 Edith Parrast 15 William Parrast 4 Arthur Kirley 19 Fredrick Patrick 25 Kate Patrick 24 Lily Patrick 2
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Christina(Lancashire)
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7 Aug 2012 16:11 |
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Harriet was with the Parrants in 1881.....
1881 England Census Name: Harriett A. Kilby [Harriett A. Kirby] Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863 Relation: Visitor Gender: Female Where born: Strathfieldsaye, Hampshire, England Civil parish: Sonning County/Island: Berkshire Country: England Street Address: 6 Johnson Cottages Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Dom Serv Unemp Registration district: Wokingham Sub-registration district: Wargrave ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1313 Folio: 57 Page Number: 30 Household Members: Name Age William Parrant 26 Jane Parrant 22 Kate E. Parrant 4 Ellen Parrant Mary Harling 77 Harriett A. Kilby 18
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Sarah
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7 Aug 2012 16:16 |
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Thanks for the details - I had Harriet's baptism but not her birth date so thak you for that.
Up Somborne is quite a distance from Startfield Saye - had a look at the family and not sure who the parents (Charles and Ann) are or if connected at all - they are from Up Somborne too. There are quite a few Kirby's living there in 1911 so I will have a look in to this in more detail.
Think I might have found him although his place of birth is listed as Earley, Berkshire and not Stratfield Saye, Hampshire. However, his mum did live in the Earley area after leaving Stratfield Saye.
Name: Arthur Wm Kirby Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884 Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: Earley, Berkshire, England Civil parish: St Giles Ecclesiastical parish: St Giles Town: Reading County/Island: Berkshire Country: England Registration district: Reading Sub-registration district: St Giles ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Piece: 994 Folio: 150 Page Number: 33 Household Members:
William Tarrant 36 Jane Tarrant 32 Kate Emily Tarrant 14 Ellen Tarrant 10 Edith Maud Tarrant 4 Arthur Wm Kirby 7 Harry Wm Kirby 22
The other Kirby mentioned in the household is Harry Wm Kirby who is Harriet Ann Kirby's brother so I'm pretty sure this is him.
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Sarah
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7 Aug 2012 16:22 |
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oops - must have been typing while other people were submitting stuff too. Thanks so much everyone - Pleased to have found him.
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Sarah
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7 Aug 2012 16:31 |
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Can't seem to be able to find him on 1911 census though
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Christina(Lancashire)
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7 Aug 2012 16:49 |
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Could be this one.....
1911 England Census Name: Arthur Huby Age in 1911: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881 Relation to Head: Boarder Gender: Male Birth Place: Earley, Berkshire, England Civil parish: Reading County/Island: Berkshire Country: England Street Address: 77 Addington Road, Reading Marital Status: Single Occupation: Railway Labourer Registration district: Reading Registration District Number: 121 Sub-registration district: St Giles ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Household schedule number: 139 Piece: 6595 Household Members: Name Age Charles Henry Allen 62 Harold Hughes 16 Beulah Hughes 14 Jack Hughes 5 Arthur Huby 30 Ellen Wheeler 47 Dorothy Wheeler 14 Stanley Wheeler 11
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Sarah
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7 Aug 2012 18:12 |
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Yes that's him - I looked at the image and it is Kerby and not Huby. Thank you so much!
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