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Thankyou Catherine for all your help,my grandfather was 20yrs older than my gran.Also thankyou mike as well.

Another child born after 1911:-

Births Sep 1914 (>99%)
Cook Beatrice M Phelps Shepton M. 5c 706

Here's the family in 1911 living with Agnes (married to Walter Cook):-

COOK, Walter Head Married M 28 1883 Miller Carter Alhampton Somerset VIEW
COOK, Agnes Ellens Wife Married 3 years F 28 1883 East Pennard Somt VIEW
COOK, Robert Charles Son M 0 (6 MONTHS) 1911 Alhampton Somt VIEW
PHELPS, Robert Boarder Widow M 59 1852 Farm Labourer East Pennard Somt VIEW
PHELPS, William Henry Boarder Single M 32 1879 Farm Labourer East Pennard Somt VIEW

RG number: RG14 Piece: 14511 Reference: RG14PN14511 RG78PN879 RD312 SD2 ED6 SN115 Registration District: Shepton Mallet Sub District: Evercreech Enumeration District: 6 Parish: Ditcheat Address: Alhampton Ditcheat Evercreech County: Somersetshire

2 children, 1 living and 1 died.

Marriages Mar 1918 (>99%)
Cross Wilfred S Henderson Wincanton 5c 694
xxxx Hill Nellie E M Phelps Wincanton 5c 694 xxxx
xxxx Phelps William Hill Wincanton 5c 694
The district Wincanton spans the boundaries of the counties of Dorset and Somerset

Do you have their marriage cert.? This will give you their father's names and occupations which will confirm, or not, if the above census records are correct.

As the spouse in the marriage record is noted just as William, what makes you think that he had a middle name?

If William was born in 1877, then that would make him 41yrs old when he married, which seems a little old for a first marriage.
The marriage cert. would also give you his age so you can work out his date of birth.

Could you say where you are getting your info from please?

My grandfather married Evelyn Nellie May Hill she could also have been known by the name of Nellie Evelyn May Hill,born 24/09/1895/6

If William George Phelps was your Grandfather, then you should know who he married, could you let us know the name of his wife and any children they had please?

The William in the above family seems to be this one:-

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about William Henry Philps
Name: William Henry Philps
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1877
Registration district: Shepton Mallet
Inferred County: Somerset
Volume: 5c
Page: 522

............so what makes you think that the one you are looking for had parents Robert and Charlotte?

in 1891 he was William H

maybe this is his birth ( as posted above)

Births Mar 1877
PHILPS William Henry - Shepton M. 5c 522

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It was his brother who had the middle name of George

Births Mar 1879
Phelps Albert George - Shepton M. 5c 534
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Can't find a birth for William George Phelps born 1877 in Somerset????

The only one I can find is this one:-

Births Dec 1876 (>99%)
Phelps William George S Aston 6d 380
The district Aston is in the county of Warwickshire

............................How sure are you of your facts????

Maybe A.George Phelps in 1911 isn't our man after all:-

Marriages Jun 1900 (>99%)
xxxx Phelps George Albion Bridgend 11a 1269
Pincott James Bridgend 11a 1269
xxxx Pole Sarah Jane Bridgend 11a 1269
Smith Elizabeth Bridgend 11a 1269

............or maybe this is just an error?

So William George turns out to be William H
George is Albert G
Ellen is Agnes E


Still not seeing births for William H or Agnes E

Unless ....

Births Mar 1877
PHILPS William Henry - Shepton M. 5c 522


Births Sep 1880
Phelps Agnes Alice - Shepton M. 5c 510

Marriage for Agnes Ellen:-

Marriage for AgnesEllen:-

Marriages Mar 1908 (>99%)
COOK Walter Shepton M. 5c 741
GOODLAND Arthur William Shepton M. 5c 741
Parsons Elizabeth Shepton M. 5c 741
xxxx PHELPS Agnes Ellen Shepton M. 5c 741

And Ellen is Agnes Ellen :-

1901 England Census about Agnes E Phelps
Name: Agnes E Phelps
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Robert Phelps
Gender: Female
Where born: East Pennard, Somerset, England
Civil parish: East Pennard
Ecclesiastical parish: East Pennard All Saints
Town: East Pennard
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Registration district: Shepton Mallet
Sub-registration district: Evercreech
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 15
Piece: 2314
Folio: 115
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Phelps 50
Agnes E Phelps 20
Florance Miles 16

From 1891 census, George would seem to be Albert George, so this may be him in 1911:-

1911 England Census about A George Phelps
Name: A George Phelps
Age in 1911: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: East Pennard, Somerset
Civil parish: West Pennard
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Street Address: Piltown, West Pennard, Glastonbury, Somerset
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Farm Labourer
Registration district: Wells
Registration District Number: 313
Sub-registration district: Glastonbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Household schedule number: 129
Piece: 14547
Household Members:
Name Age
A George Phelps 31
Sarah Jane Phelps 31
H W Phelps 9
H J Phelps 8
A H Phelps 7

married 10yrs
3 children, all living!

1881

Name: William Phelps
Age: 4
Gender: Male
Birth Year: 1877
Birthplace: East Pennard, Somerset, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Son
Marital Condition: Single
Profession/Occupation:
Address: Pennard Street
Census Place: East Pennard, Somersetshire, England

Head Robert Phelps M 30 East Pennard, Somerset, England
Wife Charlotte Phelps F 26 Ditcheat, Somerset, England
Son William Phelps M 4 East Pennard, Somerset, England
Son George Phelps M 2 East Pennard, Somerset, England
Daughter Ellen Phelps F 0 East Pennard, Somerset, England



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Marriages Jun 1876

Hoare Charlotte - Shepton M. 5c 817
Phelps Robert - Shepton M. 5c 817

for ref:-

1881 England Census about George Phelps
Name: George Phelps
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert Phelps
Mother's Name: Charlotte Phelps
Gender: Male
Where born: East Pennard, Somerset, England
Civil parish: East Pennard
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Street Address: Pennard Street
Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Shepton Mallet
Sub-registration district: Evercreech
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2408
Folio: 69
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Phelps 30 - 1851 born: East Pennard, Somerset (Ag.Lab.)
Charlotte Phelps 26 born: Ditcheat, Somerset
William Phelps 4
George Phelps 2
Ellen Phelps
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1891 England Census about Robert Phelps
Name: Robert Phelps
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Charlotte Phelps
[Elizabeth Phelps]
Gender: Male
Where born: East Pennard, Somerset, England
Civil parish: East Pennard
Ecclesiastical parish: East Pennard
Town: East Pennard
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Shepton Mallet
Sub-registration district: Evercreech
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1912
Folio: 123
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Phelps 40
Charlotte Phelps 34
William H Phelps 14
Albert G Phelps 12
Agnes E Phelps 10
Elizabeth Phelps 63
Emma Fear 37

.l am looking for a brother and sister of William George Phelps born 1877,he was called George Phelps born1879.and she was called Ellen Phelps born 1881,think they were all born in East Pennard Somerset Think their parents were called Charlotte Phelps born 1855,in Ditcheat Somerset, and Robert Phelps born 1851,in East Pennard,trying to find out what happen to George and Ellen.if they married,had any children or what.thankyou