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John Birkett

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Fiona

Fiona Report 1 Aug 2012 21:22

Thanks again everyone! Think this was the Jessie definately. I always wondered why some of our family ended up in the Blackpool area!

Fiona

Andrew

Andrew Report 1 Aug 2012 20:40

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
about John James Birkett
Name: John James Birkett
Probate Date: 5 Jun 1943
Death Date: 24 Nov 1943
Death Place: Cumberland, England
Registry: Carlisle


This John Birkett had a widow Martha.

This would be the marriage

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1912 (>99%)
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Birkett John J Thompson Cockermouth 10b 1191
Thompson Martha Birkett Cockermouth 10b 1191


Andy

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 1 Aug 2012 20:10

There are too many John J. Birkett births in Cumberland around the same time. You really need John and Jessie's marriage certificate for John's age and his father's name - then you can look for him in the 1911 census.

Kath. x

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 1 Aug 2012 20:09

Fiona, beware of going down the wrong path with John - there is more than one possible birth, even assuming he was born in Cumbria. You need his marriage cert.

Births Mar 1883 (>99%)
Birkett John Joseph Alston 10b 430

Births Dec 1890 (>99%)
Birkett John James Cockermouth 10b 577

Births Mar 1892 (>99%)
Birkett John James Cockermouth 10b 600

Births Mar 1896 (>99%)
Birkett John Joseph Cockermouth 10b 55

Fiona

Fiona Report 1 Aug 2012 20:06

That was them in the 1911 census. This is brilliant thank you all very much. I've got a lot more info to keep me digging now :-)

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 1 Aug 2012 20:04

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Name: Jessie Birkett
Birth Date: 2 Apr 1897
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1976
Age at Death: 79
Registration district: Blackpool & Fylde
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 40
Page: 0843

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 1 Aug 2012 20:03

Could this be Jessie's death?

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006
Name: Jessie Birkett
Birth Date: 2 Apr 1897
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1976
Age at Death: 79
Registration district: Blackpool & Fylde
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 40
Page: 0843

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 1 Aug 2012 20:02

Births Jun 1918
Birkett Elizabeth H Nelson Cockermouth 10b 1124
Births Mar 1923 (>99%)
Birkett John N Nelson Whitehaven 10b 12

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 1 Aug 2012 20:01

Possibly Jessie's birth:-

Name: NELSON, Jessie
Registration district: Cockermouth
County: Cumberland
Year of registration: 1897
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 10B
Page no: 620

Kath. x

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 1 Aug 2012 20:00

possibly

Name: John J Birkett
Birth Date: abt 1890
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1942
Age at Death: 52
Registration district: Cockermouth
Inferred County: Cumberland
Volume: 10b
Page: 670

Andrew

Andrew Report 1 Aug 2012 20:00

??

BIRKETT, Ambrose Head Married M 43 1868 Dock Labourer Whitehaven VIEW
BIRKETT, Susannah Wife Married24 years F 44 1867 Dalry Ayrshire Scotland VIEW
BIRKETT, John James Son Single M 20 1891 Fish Salesman Maryport VIEW
BIRKETT, Alexander Son Single M 18 1893 Fish Salesman Maryport VIEW
BIRKETT, Ambrose Son Single M 16 1895 General Labourer Maryport VIEW
BIRKETT, Henry Son M 11 1900 School Maryport VIEW
BIRKETT, Susannah Daughter F 9 1902 School Maryport VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 31466
Reference: RG14PN31466 RG78PN1807 RD576 SD4 ED12 SN15
Registration District: Cockermouth
Sub District: Maryport
Enumeration District: 12
Parish: Netherhall
Address: 53 Nelson Street Maryport
County: Cumberland


Andy

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 1 Aug 2012 19:59

This could possibly be Jessie in the 1911 census:-

1911 census transcription details for: 26 North Cote Street Westfield Workington

National Archive Reference:
RG14PN31451 RG78PN1806 RD576 SD3 ED25 SN118
Reg. District: Cockermouth
Sub District: Workington
Parish: Workington
Enum. District: 25

Address: 26 North Cote Street Westfield Workington
County: Cumberland

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

NELSON, Charles Head Married M 50 1861 Steelworker Dronfield Derbyshire
NELSON, Elizabeth Ann Wife Married 27 years F 45 1866 Penistone Yorkshire
NELSON, Fred Son Single M 23 1888 Steelworker Workington Cumb
NELSON, Wilfred Son Single M 18 1893 Bootmaker Apprentice Workington Cumb
NELSON, Jessie Daughter F 14 1897 Workington Cumb<<<<<<<<<<
NELSON, Sarah Elizabeth Daughter F 12 1899 School Workington Cumb
NELSON, Dorothy Mary Daughter F 9 1902 School Workington Cumb
NELSON, Lena Daughter F 7 1904 School Workington Cumb

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 1 Aug 2012 19:57

This is their marriage:-


Name: NELSON, Jessie
Registration district: Cockermouth
County: Cumberland
Year of registration: 1917
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name: Birkett
Volume no: 10B
Page no: 1208

Name: BIRKETT, John J
Registration district: Cockermouth
County: Cumberland
Year of registration: 1917
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name: Nelson
Volume no: 10B
Page no: 1208

The certificate will give their approximate ages and also the father of each.


Kath. x

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 1 Aug 2012 19:56

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about Jessie Nelson
Name: Jessie Nelson
Spouse Name: John J Birkett
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1917
Registration district: Cockermouth
Inferred County: Cumberland
Volume Number: 10b
Page Number: 1208

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 1 Aug 2012 19:55

Well, he was John J if that helps - but you do need the marriage cert. I imagine they were born before 1900:

Marriages Dec 1917 (>99%)
Birkett John J Nelson Cockermouth 10b 1208
Nelson Jessie Birkett Cockermouth 10b 1208

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 1 Aug 2012 19:52

Hello Fiona, his marriage certificate should be the starting point.

Do you know where and when he and Jessie died? Working back from the death can be helpful.

(PS - I've recently been walking in the Langdales with a Birkett from there!)

Fiona

Fiona Report 1 Aug 2012 19:45

Hi, Just wondering if anyone can help. I'm trying to find out a little more about my great grandad who was John Birkett from Cumbria. I've looked through birth and marriage records and can't figure out which is him! I assumed he was born in whitehaven (cleator area). He married Jessie Nelson (also from cumbria) but again, can't find a match. They were both born roughly around 1900 and had two children...Jack and Lily. Would love to know Jessie's mum's maiden name; she was called Elizabeth. Also would like to find out who John's parents were.
Any help would be greatfully recieved!
Thank you
Fiona