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3 Aug 2012 15:38 |
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Jessie was in service on 1911 census Address: 35 Romilly Crescent Cardiff MAGGS, John Henry Head Married M 39 1872 Plumber Master Somerset Hinton Blewett MAGGS, Mabel Katherine Wife Married F 34 1877 Cardiff South Wales MAGGS, Philipm John Son M 8 1903 Cardiff South Wales MAGGS, Amy Mabel Daughter F 4 1907 Cardiff South Wales MAGGS, Dora Kathleen Daughter F 2 1909 Cardiff South Wales JACQUIS, Jessie Grace Servant Single F 16 1895 Swindon Wiltshire
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3 Aug 2012 15:30 |
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Abi According to the 1901 census George and Jane had just 4 children All of them with the exception of Jessie, appear on the 1911 census with George and his 2nd wife. At this stage, the youngest child from the first marriage was already 14 yrs old.
This means that if any the children were sent to Scotland, they must have been returned to their father before 1911. It is unlikely that they were sent after 1911 as they would be too old to be placed in care
Anne
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3 Aug 2012 15:08 |
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I'll be getting Jenney's death certificate this weekend, but don't think it will be of much help. George remarried quite quickly, as he sent my grandmother and her siblings to Scotland to be looked after by their aunts who treated them very badly and put them in an orphanage. I was told that it was Aberdeen that they were from, so it may be that they weren't married or as someone suggested, they married abroad.
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2 Aug 2012 14:56 |
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Thank you Tempest, I could not find the 1911 cenus on Ancestry. I tried every permutation and still no joy!
George remarried Annie Goodenough last quarter 1902
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2 Aug 2012 14:46 |
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fmp version of 1901 census Address: 14, Percy Street, Swindon JACQUES, George Wm Head Married M 32 1869 General Labourer Swimbrook, Oxfordshire JACQUES, Jane Wife Married F 34 1867 Scotland JACQUES, George W Son M 7 1894 Clanfield, Oxfordshire JACQUES, Jessie G Daughter F 6 1895 Swindon, Wiltshire JACQUES, Florence A Daughter F 4 1897 Swindon, Wiltshire JACQUES, Frederick J Son M 2 1899 Swindon, Wiltshire
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2 Aug 2012 14:41 |
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1911 census
married 7 years
Address: 6 Wyndham St Cymmer Porth
JACQUES, George Head Married7 years M 43 1868 Haulier Colliery Oxford JACQUES, Annie Wife Married F 36 1875 Swindon JACQUES, George Son Single M 18 1893 Coal Miner Hewer Colliers Help Below Ground Clanfield Oxon JACQUES, Florrie Daughter Single F 15 1896 Swindon JACQUES, Fred Son Single M 14 1897 School Swindon JACQUES, Edgar Son M 6 1905 School Swindon JACQUES, Nellie Daughter F 4 1907 Wales Porth JACQUES, Ena Daughter F 0 (3 MONTHS) 1911 Swindon LOADENOUGH, Ernest Stepson Single M 17 1894 Coal Miner Hewer Colliers Help Below Ground Swindon GILES, Thomas Boarder Single M 18 1893 Coal Miner Hewer Colliers Help Below Ground Swindon
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2 Aug 2012 14:38 |
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Is this the family?
1901 England Census about George Wm Jacques Name: George Wm Jacques Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Jane Jacques Gender: Male Where born: Swinbrook, Oxfordshire, England Civil parish: Swindon Ecclesiastical parish: Rodbourne Cheney St Mary County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Swindon Sub-registration district: Swindon ED, institution, or vessel: 21 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 157 Piece: 1906 Folio: 19 Page Number: 29 Household Members: Name Age George Wm Jacques 32 b 1869 Swinbrook. Occ: General Labourer Jane Jacques 34 b Scotland George W Jacques 7 b Jessie G Jacques 6 Herbert A Jacques 4 Frederick J Jacques
I noticed quite a few trees on Ancestry with this census added to George Wm Jacques and Jane Douglas According to these, George remarried in 1902? As there is no marriage for George Wm Jacques and Jane Douglas in Scotland, nor did anyone seem to find a death for Jane ( I checked, none in Scotland) I wonder how everyone come to the same conclusion that Jane was from Aberdeen? Also, I cannot find anyone from the 1901 census.... in 1911 Presumably if George was now married to Annie, they would show up somewhere Do you know where they were?
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2 Aug 2012 14:14 |
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As George was in the Army in 1891 just wondering if it was an overseas marriage
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2 Aug 2012 13:59 |
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1901 just for info
Name: Jane Jacques Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: George Wm Jacques Gender: Female Where born: Seatland Civil parish: Swindon Ecclesiastical parish: Rodbourne Cheney St Mary County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
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Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Swindon Sub-registration district: Swindon ED, institution, or vessel: 21 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 157 Piece: 1906 Folio: 19 Page Number: 29 Household Members: Name Age George Wm Jacques 32 Jane Jacques 34 George W Jacques 7 Jessie G Jacques 6 Herbert A Jacques 4 Frederick J Jacques 2
Deaths Jun 1902 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jacques Jenney 36 Swindon 5a 15
George did not hang about as a possible second marriage in 1902 in Swindon
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2 Aug 2012 13:40 |
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Thanks for the help - it's interesting about the railway guard occupation because I know my gt grandfather George Jacques worked on the GWR. However I know in 1894 that George and Jenney were living in Oxfordshire as that's where my gt uncle was born and that's where George himself was originally from.
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1 Aug 2012 22:56 |
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Hi Abi and Catherine, The family selected on the 1891 and 1901 return appear to be George Jack and Jeanie Simpson who married in Airdrie, Lanarkshire in 1889
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1 Aug 2012 22:25 |
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I know this isn't the marriage but could this be them in 1891?
1891 Scotland Census about George Jack Name: George Jack Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Jeanie Jack Gender: Male Where born: Caldercruix, Lanarkshire Registration Number: 652/2 Registration district: Coatbridge Civil parish: Old Monkland Town: Coatbridge County: Lanarkshire Address: Main Street Clifton Place 339 Occupation: Railway Goods Guard ED: 15 Household schedule number: 121 Line: 21 Roll: CSSCT1891_319 Household Members: Name Age George Jack 24 Jeanie Jack 23 - born: Rutherglen, Lanarkshire Janet Jack 5 Mo - born: Coatbridge, Lanarkshire ......................................
1901 Scotland Census about Jeannie Jack Name: Jeannie Jack Age: 33 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868 Relationship: Wife Spouse's name : George Jack Gender: Female Where born: Rutherglen, Lanarkshire Registration Number: 625/2 Registration district: Holytown Civil parish: Bothwell County: Lanarkshire Address: Boness Rd ED: 16 Household schedule number: 140 Line: 14 Roll: CSSCT1901_249 Household Members: Name Age George Jack 34 Jeannie Jack 33 James Jack 9 Marion Jack 7 George Jack 5 William Jack 1
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1 Aug 2012 21:09 |
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Abi, As Shirley has already explained, Scotlands People is the site for Scottish BDMs. However, the site can be manipulated simply to check that the record exists. I checked, and between 1890 and 1905, there was only one man called George Jacques who married in Scotland. This marriage took place in Glasgow (Blackfriars) in 1897 and his wife was called Agnes Derrix or Adam ( probably a widow).
I also looked for alternative, possible variant spellings on both Jacques and Duglas... There is no marriage.
Anne
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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1 Aug 2012 19:30 |
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Abi
You need Scotlands People website which isnt a subs site. You have to buy units to view the info But you can look at the marriage record online for that time at the cost of 5 units,
Its a very reasonably priced site
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1 Aug 2012 19:26 |
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Could anyone with access to Scottish records try and find a marriage certificate for Jenney Duglas in 1891 in Aberdeen please? She was born in 1867/8 and was married to George Jacques, many thanks.
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