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Maureen

Maureen Report 30 Jul 2012 13:41

I am searching for information about William Fryer and his daughter Caroline Fryer.

William and his spouse Catharine (Unknown) had three children: Isabella chr 16 Apr In Partney Lincs UK; George chr 16 Feb 1817 also in Partney.

I can't find a record for Caroline but census records give her approx date of birth as 1814 and place of birth Partney.

Caroline was married three times: Richard Wilkinson; John Allaway; William Forster.

On Caroline's record of marriage to John Allaway, 22 Nov 1851, parish church of Marylebone, Middlesex, her father's occupation was given as a soldier.

Apart from the fact that William was resident in Partney at the time of his children's birth, and the fact that his spouse was Catharine, and he was a soldier I know little about him.

I would like to find a chr record for Caroline. It seems odd that her two siblings are recorded in the parish register in Partney but not Caroline.

I can't find a record of death for Caroline either. It would come under her married name of Forster/Foster and Caroline was now living in the county of Durham.

Any suggestions please? Thank you for your time

Maureen

Catherine

Catherine Report 30 Jul 2012 13:47

Could this be her?

name: Caroline Fryer
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 21 Mar 1813
baptism/christening place: St. Peter's, Dorchester, Dorset, England
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: William Fryer
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Catherine
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C02430-0
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1279495
reference number: item 9 p 1

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 30 Jul 2012 13:48

Isabella Fryer
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 16 Apr 1815 PARTNEY,?LINCOLN,?ENGLAND
parents: William Fryer,? Catharine


name: Isabella Fryer
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 16 Apr 1815
baptism/christening place: PARTNEY,LINCOLN,ENGLAND
father's name: William Fryer
mother's name: Catharine
indexing project (batch) number: C03069-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 504587, 508025

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 30 Jul 2012 13:49

1851 Census Household Record Household information
Address Linton Place
Parish Marylebone
District Marylebone, Christ Church
Administrative County Middlesex

Householder 1
Name John Allaway
Age 30
Estimated Year of Birth 1821
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Porter To The G Wr
Birth Place
Birth County Berkshire

Householder 2
Name Caroline Allaway
Age 37
Estimated Year of Birth 1814
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Birth Place Pertnier
Birth County Lincolnshire

Householder 3
Name Albert Allaway
Age 9
Estimated Year of Birth 1842
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Swindon
Birth County Wiltshire

Householder 4
Name Felix Allaway
Age 2
Estimated Year of Birth 1849
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Swindon
Birth County Wiltshire

Householder 5
Name Mary Allaway
Age 7
Estimated Year of Birth 1844
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Swindon
Birth County

Householder 6
Name Jane Wilkinson
Age 13
Estimated Year of Birth 1838
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Sheldon
Birth County Durham

Householder 7
Name Peter Robinson
Age 37
Estimated Year of Birth 1814
Relationship to Head of Household
Occupation Chelsea Pensioner
Birth Place Darlington
Birth County Durham

Householder 8
Name James Read
Age 30
Estimated Year of Birth 1821
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Baker
Birth Place Scotland
Birth County

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 30 Jul 2012 13:49

George Fryer
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 16 Feb 1817 PARTNEY,?LINCOLN,?ENGLAND
parents: William Fryer,? Catharine


name: George Fryer
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 16 Feb 1817
baptism/christening place: PARTNEY,LINCOLN,ENGLAND
father's name: William Fryer
mother's name: Catharine
indexing project (batch) number: C03069-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 504587, 508025

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 30 Jul 2012 13:51

?????

William Fryer
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 25 Dec 1792 MESSINGHAM,?LINCOLN,?ENGLAND
parents: Jonathan Fryer,? Mary


name: William Fryer
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 25 Dec 1792
baptism/christening place: MESSINGHAM,LINCOLN,ENGLAND
father's name: Jonathan Fryer
mother's name: Mary
indexing project (batch) number: C03020-2
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 504575

Catherine

Catherine Report 30 Jul 2012 13:56

Siblings were born later so could the family have moved?

Isabella Fryer
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 16 Apr 1815 PARTNEY,?LINCOLN,?ENGLAND
parents: William Fryer,? Catharine

George Fryer
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 16 Feb 1817 PARTNEY,?LINCOLN,?ENGLAND

................it is possible that she gave her place of birth as Partney because that is where she was brought up and/or didn't know that she had been born somewhere else????

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 30 Jul 2012 14:35

thanks for the message but you really should respond on here - much better all round :-)

Maureen

Maureen Report 30 Jul 2012 14:41

Hi Catherine

That is a possibility but where do I go from there? This lady has led me such a dance. She was born in Lincs (I think). By 1834 she married Richard Wilkinson in Durham. After his death she moved to Swindon in Wiltshire with her daughter Jane. She had a relationship with John Allaway and gave birth to three children, Albert, Mary Catherine and Felix. The family moved to Marylebone in Middlesex. She married John Allaway in 1851. A few years later John died and Caroline moved to Durham where she married William Forster. He died sometime between 1861 and 1871 because in the 1871 census Caroline was a widow living in Bishopwearmouth, Durham.

She seems to have roots in Durham. I wonder if this is where she was born?

Regards
Maureen

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 30 Jul 2012 16:01

This looks like Caroline in 1881

??
1881 England Census
about Caroline Forster
Name: Caroline Forster
Age: 69
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1812
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Park Place, Lincoln, England

Civil parish: Westoe
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address: 58 Morton Street
Condition as to marriage: Windower (Widower)
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: South Shields
Sub-registration district: Westoe
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 5011
Folio: 118
Page Number: 56
Household Members: Name Age
Caroline Forster 69
Albert Hann 15 (Grandson)
Edward Hann 13 (Grandson)
Barney Johnson 30 (Boarder)


Are the Grandson's Mary Catherine's children??

??
England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about William Henry Harn
Name: William Henry Harn
Spouse Name: Mary Catherine Allaway
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1864
Registration district: South Shields
Inferred County: Durham
Volume Number: 10a
Page Number: 644


Maureen

Maureen Report 30 Jul 2012 16:36

Thanks for replying to my message. Yes they are Mary Catherine's children. Mary was married to William Henry Harn but he died and Mary went to live with her mother Caroline. :-)

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 30 Jul 2012 16:50

pointless sharing trees Maureeen - we have no connection

tempest

tempest Report 30 Jul 2012 20:21

a possible

Death transcript details
Civil registration event: Death

Name: FOSTER, Caroline
Registration district: South Shields
County: Durham
Year of registration: 1884
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at death:71
Volume no: 10A
Page no: 347

Maureen

Maureen Report 30 Jul 2012 20:26

Thank you so much for this info. I do appreciate it. Now I can concentrate on finding her record of birth but if she wasn't born in Partney then it is going to prove difficult. If she thought that was her place of birth then that is what will be recorded on all her records I suppose.

Kind regards
Maureen :-)

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 30 Jul 2012 20:38

At least we now know that Caroline was still alive in 1881.

So the death Tempest posted, is looking good. :-)

Maureen

Maureen Report 31 Jul 2012 08:33

Yes it is.

Thank you all so much. :-)