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1911 Census Wallsend Northumberland

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mgnv

mgnv Report 31 Jul 2012 04:42

MC posted a likely Ohio birth. Unfortunately, apart from maybe a dozen pages, the 1890 US census for Ohio went up in flames. I don't know if they had any state censuses, but they would have been in 1885 & 1895 when our mob were back in the UK.

North Lawrence is abt 20km W of Canton, also in Stark Co. Canton's maybe 70 km due W of the PA state line, abt 15 km from the N tip of WV. I think N Lawrence's on the N edge of the Ohio coalfield - I'ld expect our Richard Snr to be working as a coal miner in 1890

So which side of the edge is N Lawrence -here's a page from the US 1880:
http://archive.org/stream/10thcensus1067unit#page/n325/mode/1up
You can click thru the adjacent pages and see plenty of coal miners.

Of course it's far from conclusive, but I would view this as tending to corroborate the view that that birth index record is our Liz.

mgnv

mgnv Report 30 Jul 2012 01:25

There're 2 cemeteries just a couple of km N of White Rock:
http://www.victorymemorialpark.com/dm20/en_CA/locations/68/6800/index.page
If you click on the map link, you'll see the other (catholic) cemetery 1 km to E.
http://www.gethsemani.bc.ca/

Dea

Dea Report 29 Jul 2012 16:19

I am sure she was MC !!!

Dea Xxx

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 29 Jul 2012 14:57

Erin - is it the Mcauleys or the Taylors that you're following, or both?

If it's both then I guess we need to fathom pout what Elizabeth Taylor snr maiden name was (hope she was a Renwick!).

Dea

Dea Report 29 Jul 2012 14:15

Wondered when you would come back Erin !!

Don't know whether the info we found is correct or not but worth 'an explore' ??

You get the dinner on and come back later to let us know what you need next !! ;-)

Dea Xxx

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 29 Jul 2012 14:12

Many Belated Thanks to Dea MarieCeleste and Michele for their help with the above family...
The "Error Message" continued late into last night ...seems to be resolved now.

The information you have found has opened up another interesting aspect of the original query...but I had better get the dinner on !!

Dea

Dea Report 28 Jul 2012 19:54

We have now moved to Canada !!

Elizabeth's death ??

British Columbia Death Registrations, 1872-1986,"

No image available Search collectionAbout this collectionDeath Date: 10 Aug 1977
Death Place: White Rock, British Columbia, Canada
Name: Elizabeth Renus Clark
Gender: Female
Age: 87y
Birth Date: 02 Feb 1890
Birthplace: St Lawrence, Ohio
Marital Status: Widow
Spouse: John Clark
Father: Richard Taylor ****
Mother: Elizabeth Wrenwick ****
Indian Agency:
Indian Band/Tribe:
Film Number: 2050950
Digital Folder Number: 4479380
Image Number: 204
British Columbia Archives Film Number: B13579
Registration Number: 77 09 012123


Dea x

Dea

Dea Report 28 Jul 2012 19:37

Looks good MC !!

Dea x

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 28 Jul 2012 19:23

I wonder?

Ohio, Births and Christenings Index, 1800-1962
Name: Elizabeth Taylor
Gender: Female
Birth Place: No. Lawrence, Stark, Ohio
Birth Date: 2 Feb 1890
Christening Place: Stark, Ohio
Father's Name: Richard Taylor
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Renwicks
FHL Film Number: 897619

Can't find anything to back it up.

Dea

Dea Report 28 Jul 2012 19:17

Just a few doors away from 'Elizabeth' on 1891 is the rest of the family :

CHAMBERS, William Single M 17 1874 Miner
Bedlington, Northumberland VIEW
TAYLOR, James M 9 1882 Scholar
Bothal, Northumberland VIEW
TAYLOR, Isabella F 8 1883 Scholar
Bothal, Northumberland VIEW
TAYLOR, Robert M 4 1887 Scholar
Bothal, Northumberland VIEW
TAYLOR, Richard M 3 1888
Ohio, America VIEW
Piece: 4258
Folio: 5
Page: 3
Registration District: Morpeth
Civil Parish: Bedlington
Municipal Borough:
Address: Bedlington, Guide Post
County: Northumberland

SO relieved to see that a 17 year old boy was not looking after them all on his own !!!

Dea x

Michele

Michele Report 28 Jul 2012 19:04


1881 Scotland Census about Ann Gibson
Name: Ann Gibson
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : Robert Gibson
Gender: Female
Where born: Elliarage, England
Registration Number: 731
Registration district: Cockburnspath
Civil parish: Cockburnspath
County: Berwickshire
Address: Cockburnspath
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 97
Line: 13
Roll: cssct1881_307
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Gibson 45
Ann Gibson 42
Jane Gibson 18
Daniel Gibson 14
Alexander Gibson 5
James Gibson 3
John Gibson 8 Mo
David Gallacher 48
Elizabeth Gallacher 21
Isaac Francis 48
Duncan Campbell 66
Edward Cromwell 39
Robert Mangan 32
Thomas Armitage 31

Wondering if this could be ann in 1881

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 28 Jul 2012 18:45

MarieCeleste....

Yes I would say it is Eliz.
Maybe the Gibsons were her g.parents

Keep getting Error Error Error when trying to connect....

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 28 Jul 2012 18:41

MarieCeleste...Had similar problems for family living in Wallsend and would you guess name of the street they lived on "Long Row"...!!
Hows that for coincidence ?

Tea is in the bin....!!

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 28 Jul 2012 18:15

Wonder if this is the child Elizabeth in 1891, there's no relationship on the original?

GIBSON, Ann Head Married F 52 1839 Ellingham, Northumberland
GIBSON, Alexander Son Single M 17 1874 Miner Scotland
GIBSON, James Son Single M 16 1875 Miner Scotland
GIBSON, John Son Single M 12 1879 Scholar Scotland
TAYLOR, Elizabeth F 1 1890 Ohio, America ??

Piece: 4258 Folio: 5 Page: 3
Registration District: Morpeth
Civil Parish: Bedlington

Address: Bedlington, Guide Post County: Northumberland

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 28 Jul 2012 18:05

Just posting a different version of that 1901, seems the family were into marrying and becoming step-parents and whatever at very young ages!

MACULEY, Daniel Head Married M 29 1872 Coal Hewer Scotland
MACULEY, Elizabeth Wife F F 37 1864 Choppington, Northumberland
TAYLOR, James Step Son Married M 18 1883 Putting Coals (Miner) Choppington, Northumberland
TAYLOR, Robert Step Son Married M 13 1888 Pony Driver (Miner) Choppington, Northumberland
TAYLOR, Richard Step Son Married M 12 1889 U S America B S
TAYLOR, Elizabeth Step Daughter F F 10 1891 U S America B S
TAYLOR, John Step Son Married M 8 1893 Ashington, Northumberland
TAYLOR, Ann Step Daughter F F 6 1895 Ashington, Northumberland
TAYLOR, Ada Step Daughter F F 4 1897 Ashington, Northumberland
CHAMBERS, William Boarder Single M 27 1874 Coal Hewer Putter Netherton, Northumberland

Piece: 4835 Folio: 99 Page: 9
Registration District: Morpeth
Civil Parish: Ashington

Address: Long Row, Ashington County: Northumberland

(I think they've put M for "Male" in the marital status column in error)

Michele

Michele Report 28 Jul 2012 17:58

Sorry to make things more complicated for you, one of my relatives lm looking for at the moment was born in canada in 1921, l have his marriage cert & l know he died in 2005 its giving me a headache. good luck Michelle

Dea

Dea Report 28 Jul 2012 17:51

I beg your pardon - so she has !!!

Sorry - cooking tea at the same time - it doesn't work !! :-D

Will delete the incorrect info ...........

That marriage still looks possible though !

Dea x

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 28 Jul 2012 17:46

Michele....Many thanks for the complications..!!
Thats the tea gone ...again....!!!
Why cant things be straightforward ?

Michele

Michele Report 28 Jul 2012 17:37

Hi Richard Taylor & Elizabeth in 1901 census were born in the united states
michelle

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 28 Jul 2012 17:36

Dea....Michele has already listed Dan Mc. (1901) with Eliz.Taylor....so the Dan Mc.listed Stockton is not the one...

Thanks for the marriage .