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Sharyn
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24 Jul 2012 08:22 |
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Can anyone please help me with Susannah? Born Susannah Nelson, circa 1805, married James Jones in 1823 and had at least 8 children. She and James lived in Middlesex England at the time of the 1841 census. Love to know if anyone is researching the same topic. Thanks. Sharyn
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ErikaH
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24 Jul 2012 08:27 |
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To find links on GR...use the site's 'search trees' facility
Please say what info you actually hope for.
It would be helpful if you posted the census details....for info
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ErikaH
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24 Jul 2012 08:31 |
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OK..........found 1841..........
Name: Susanna Jones Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1805 Gender: Female Civil parish: St Leonard Shoreditch Hundred: Ossulstone (Tower Division) County/Island: Middlesex Country: England
Registration district: Shoreditch Sub-registration district: Hoxton Old Town Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 708 Book: 2 Folio: 6 Page Number: 4 Household Members: Name Age Caroline Lawford 30 William Rowood 72 Rebeca Rowood 59 John Asbron 11 Osborn 6 James Jones 40 Susanna Jones 36 Emma Jones 17 James Jones 15 Sarah Jones 12 George Jones 10 Neeson Jones 8 Elizabeth Jones 5 Jemima Jones 2 6 Mo
Susanna was NOT born in Middlesex
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24 Jul 2012 08:34 |
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For Ref
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Susannah Nelson Name: Susannah Nelson Spouse Name: James Jones Record Type: Banns Event Date: 31 Dec 1823 Parish: Shoreditch St Leonard Borough: Hackney Register Type: Parish Register witts George Nelson JOnes Maria Jackson Ann Jones
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ErikaH
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24 Jul 2012 08:34 |
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Remember that ages for over-15's were rounded-down to nearest 5 in 1841.....she could have been born any time from 1801-1805
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ErikaH
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24 Jul 2012 08:40 |
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Purely for interest........
1851
Name: George Nelson Jones Age: 45 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806 Relation: Head Gender: M (Male) Where born: St James, Middlesex, England Civil parish: St Sepulchre County/Island: Middlesex Country: England
Registration district: West London Sub-registration district: West London North ED, institution, or vessel: 3d Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 33 Piece: 1526 Folio: 286 Page Number: 9 Household Members: Name Age George Nelson Jones 45 William Jones 45 John Edwards 30 Harrietta Edwards 28 Clara Plant 16
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Name: George Nelson Jones Gender: Male Birth Date: 27 Nov 1805 Christening Date: 27 Jan 1806 Christening Place: Westminster, London, England Age at Christening: 0 Father's Name: William Jones Mother's name: Jane
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24 Jul 2012 08:45 |
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Not alot coming up for a birth. Possible.
West Yorkshire, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1512-1812 about Susanna Nelson Name: Susanna Nelson Birth Date: 3 Apr Baptism Date: 7 May 1800 Parish: Leeds, St Peter (Leeds Parish Church) Father's Name: Benjamin Nelson
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ErikaH
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24 Jul 2012 08:47 |
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Did this family emigrate?
I'm having no luck finding them after 1841..either in censuses or on freebmd
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24 Jul 2012 10:05 |
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Sharyn
Like reggie I can find no trace of this family after 1841 census.
Can you please come back to the thread with any more info on this family that you may have.
Sue :-S
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Sharyn
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25 Jul 2012 00:10 |
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Thank you so much everyone for your help - that gives me something to go on with. George Jones, James' and Susannah's son, lived in New South Wales and died in South Australia. I think another son migrated to Australia as well, but not sure on that one.
Cheers and thank you sooooo much once again.
Sharyn
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Sharyn
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25 Jul 2012 00:14 |
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Hi Sue,
I only have the above info on George. Don't know anything of his parents except their names. We were always told that my grandfather, Oscar, George's son, was from Welsh stock but I'm not sure whether that is correct. That's really all I know.
Thanks again.
Sharyn
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Sharyn
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25 Jul 2012 05:56 |
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Hi again all,
A distant cousin emailed me to say that James was born in Herefordshire and was still alive in the 1871 census, living in Birmingham with his brother-in-law James Nelson. She says that Susannah Nelson was born on 23 July 1801 in Nottingham.
Cheers
Sharyn
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Astra
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25 Jul 2012 06:18 |
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That will be this one
NELSON, James H Head M 60 1811 Middlesex VIEW NELSON, Harriett S Daughter F 26 1845 Warwickshire VIEW NELSON, Maria S Daughter F 22 1849 Warwickshire VIEW JONES, James Brother-In-Law M 72 1799 Herefordshire VIEW JONES, Sarah A Niece F 40 1831 London VIEW FROST, Maria Servant F 21 1850 Surrey VIEW BARLEY, Eliza Servant F 18 1853 Worcestershire VIEW
Piece: 3083 Folio: 101 Page: 32 Registration District: Kings Norton Civil Parish: Edgbaston Municipal Borough: Birmingham Address: Wheeley Road, Edgbaston, Birmingham County: Worcestershire
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Astra
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25 Jul 2012 06:31 |
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Elizabeth (daughter) was baptised Ann Eliza
parents: James Jones,? Susanna name: Ann Elisa Jones gender: Female birth date: 07 Jun 1836 birthplace: Norton Folgate, London, Middlesex, England father's name: James Jones mother's name: Susanna indexing project (batch) number: C14622-9 system origin: England-ODM source film number: 815951
So this will be her and sister Jemima in 1851. I can't think why they would be in Suffolk
SHALDERS, Charlotte Head Widow F 53 1798 School Mistress Ipswich, Suffolk VIEW SHALDERS, Mary M Daughter Unmarried F 27 1824 Governess Ipswich, Suffolk VIEW SHALDERS, Robert Jas Son Unmarried M 19 1832 Grocer Ipswich, Suffolk VIEW BOND, Elizabeth Pupil Unmarried F 15 1836 Scholar Hacheston, Suffolk VIEW TRAVIS, Sarah A Pupil Unmarried F 15 1836 Scholar East Bergholt, Suffolk VIEW >>>JONES, Ann E Pupil Unmarried F 14 1837 Scholar London VIEW >>>JONES, Jemima Pupil Unmarried F 12 1839 Scholar London VIEW TRAVIS, Ellen Pupil Unmarried F 12 1839 Scholar East Bergholt, Suffolk VIEW BECKHAM, Louisa A Pupil Unmarried F 11 1840 Scholar Ireland VIEW WOODCOCK, Matilda Pupil Unmarried F 10 1841 Scholar London VIEW SHARAN, Keziah Servant Unmarried F 26 1825 Cook Limpenhoe, Norfolk VIEW FROST, Ellen Servant Unmarried F 22 1829 House Maid Ipswich, Suffolk VIEW
Piece: 1799 Folio: 249 Page: 2 Registration District: Ipswich Civil Parish: St Mary Elms Municipal Borough: Ipswich Address: Elm Street, St Mary Elms, Ipswich County: Suffolk
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SylviaInCanada
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25 Jul 2012 06:40 |
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A Public Family Tree on ancestry has the following information
You have to be VERY careful with the trees ........ some are well researched, others are not. Take the information as advisement, but do not add to your tree until and unless you have checked every last little bit of data!
Pearce Full_2012-04-09 Owner: Stephen Pearce
James Jones Birth 02 JUN 1801 in Hereford, Herefordshire Death
1822 31 Dec Age: 21 Marriage to Susanna Nelson
1838 17 Oct Age: 37 Occupation Sunglass (?) manufacturer
1841 6 Jun Age: 40 Occupation Warehouseman
Address 12 Ivy Terrace (Latterly St Johns Rd), Hoxton, Shoreditch, London, Middlesex
1859 10 Dec Age: 58 Occupation Gelatine Manufacturer
1861 7 Apr Age: 59 Occupation Merchant
1871 2 Apr Age: 69 Address 103 Wheeley's Road, Edgbaston, Birmingham Living with Brother-in-Law: James H Nelson Occupation Merchant - Retired
Parents
No Father No Mother
Siblings
Emma S Jones1824 – James Jones1826 – Sarah Ann Jones1830 – George Jones1831 – Nelson Jones1833 – Elizabeth Jones1836 – Ann E Jones1837 – Alfred Jones1840 –
Spouse & Children
Susanna Nelson 1801 – 1870
Emma S Jones 1824 – James Jones 1826 – Sarah Ann Jones 1830 – George Jones 1831 – Nelson Jones 1833 – Elizabeth Jones 1836 – Ann E Jones 1837 – Jemima Maria Jones 1838 – 1877 Alfred Jones 1840 –
Information obtained from censuses and .... Palmer, Angela J - Nelson Family Tree
Susanna Nelson Birth 23 JUL 1801 in Nottingham, England Death 08 JAN 1870 in Dorking, Surrey
Parents
George Nelson 1762 – 1828 Dorothea Dale 1771 – 1825
Siblings
Harriet Nelson1797 – Sarah Nelson1798 – George Nelson1800 – 1850 Richard Nelson1803 – Thomas Charles Nelson1804 – Ann Nelson1805 – Elizabeth Dorothea Nelson1806 – Clementia Maria Nelson1810 – James H Nelson1811 –
Information taken by Stephen Pearce from Palmer, Angela J -- Nelson Family Tree
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25 Jul 2012 06:46 |
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???
This looks lke James in 1861
1861 Census
Name: James Jones Age: 62 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1799 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Herefordshire, England Civil parish: Hackney Ecclesiastical parish: Dalston County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration district: Hackney Sub-registration district: Hackney
James Jones 62 Married, Gelatin Manufacturer Ann E Jones 24 b.ca 1837, N Isalgate (???sp), Shoreditch, Daughter Josiah W Martin 9 b.ca 1852, Peckham, Grandson Matilda West 16 Servant
Address:- Lansdown Road
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25 Jul 2012 06:53 |
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In 1841, James Jones was a Warehouse Man
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Astra
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25 Jul 2012 07:18 |
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1851
JONES, James Head Married M 52 1799 Galatine Manufacturer Hertford, Hertfordshire VIEW JONES, Susana Wife Married F 49 1802 Nottingham, Nottinghamshire VIEW JONES, Hariett D Daughter Unmarried F 22 1829 London VIEW JONES, Nelson Son Unmarried M 16 1835 Ap To Architecht Kinghanel, Middlesex VIEW BLACK, Sarah Son Unmarried F 21 1830 Blackbrook, Worcestershire VIEW
Piece: 1581 Folio: 450 Page: 28 Registration District: Camberwell Civil Parish: Saint Giles Camberwell Municipal Borough: Lambeth Address: Honor Oak, Wood Lane, Saint Giles Camberwell, Lambeth County: Surrey
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Sharyn
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25 Jul 2012 07:25 |
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WOW! You people are great!!! Thank you. I will confer with my cousin and see what she thinks. I really don't know any more details other than what I've supplied. I know a bit about son George who was my great grandfather. He ended up a ship's captain, sailing between England and Australia. He "married" my g-g mother, Maud Woods, and they had 4 children. We're not sure where the children were born as we can't find any records in Australia. They all claim to have been born in Sydney except for the oldest , Frederick Maitland Jones, who claims to have been born in England. Thinking on this now, Maud claimed to have been married in Newcastle and everyone assumed she meant Australia but maybe she meant England. Anyway, George left her and went to live in South Australia where he died in 1906. HOWEVER, the children were told that he died in 1894 (or thereabouts, about the time he would have left) and that he'd died at sea. Interesting.
Cheers
Sharyn
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