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Thanks Janice
I shall apply for the cert :-)

I shall also apply to see other trees fof the Sailles families

Found this on MyHeritage website



Apolonia Jarvey (born Sailles)
Born: Circa 1780
Died: July 11 1848 (at age ?~68?) In:
Lane End, Eccles, Chorlton, Lancs XX 19 CERT

Alan - please type your replies in the box and click on Submit rather than on my name, then anyone who is interested can follow the conversation.

From Alan

It certainly does. But my head hurts!!

"The next puzzle is why would a Scotsman get married at Stamford in Lincolnshire to a girl with a "continental" name, and the move to Salford?"

To keep you thinking outside the box!

It keeps the grey cells in gear doesn't it!!!!!!!!!

Hi Alan,

I found that marriage on Familysearch but it came up with three returns. Two of them had Saille as her surname but the third had Sailes.

I have no idea why but if you think in a French accent for example, they would sound the same.

If you search for that marriage on James' name and the date you should get the same results I did.

Janice

From Alan:

Thanks for your info on James
I am curious about your statement
"One entry of this marriage has Sailes"

Alan

Mark
Many thanks for all your efforts.
As I indicated earlier the 18414 census listed James as being from Scotland.
It is only by subtracting his age at death from the date of death that a possible birth year can be established.The place or Parish is then down to guesswork. Scotlands People can provide one or two names. How then do you prove the true identity?
The next puzzle is why would a Scotsman get married at Stamford in Lincolnshire to a girl with a "continental" name, and the move to Salford ?

Groom's Name: James Jarve

Bride's Name: Happelonea Saille

Marriage Date: 12 Nov 1798
Marriage Place: Saint John, Stamford, Lincoln, England

One entry of this marriage has Sailes

1841
Name: Happelonia Jarvey
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1781
Gender: Female

Civil parish: Eccles
Hundred: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Salford
Sub-registration district: Pendleton

James Jarvey 60
Happelonia Jarvey 60
Wm Jarvey 25
Charles Jarvey 20
Thomas Jarvey 15
Geo Barrett 11

Name: George Jarvis
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 19 Feb 1809
Baptism/Christening Place: CATHEDRAL,MANCHESTER,LANCASHIRE,ENGLAND

Father's Name: James Jarvis
:
Mother's Name: Appalonia
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Ann Jarvis
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 10 Aug 1806
Baptism/Christening Place: CATHEDRAL,MANCHESTER,LANCASHIRE,ENGLAND

Father's Name: Jas. Jarvis
Mother's Name: Apalonia

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Name: James Jarvey
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 28 Jul 1811
Baptism/Christening Place: CATHEDRAL,MANCHESTER,LANCASHIRE,ENGLAND
:
Father's Name: James Jarvey

Mother's Name: Applenia
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Name: Thomas Jervis
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 21 Mar 1824
Baptism/Christening Place: METHODIST NEW CONNEXION,PENDLETON BY SALFORD,LANCASHIRE,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 20 Mar 1824
:
Father's Name: James Jervis
:
Mother's Name: Appalonia
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Name: William Jervis
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 08 Jan 1822
Baptism/Christening Place: METHODIST NEW CONNEXION,PENDLETON BY SALFORD,LANCASHIRE,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 14 Feb 1814 <<<<<<
Father's Name: James Jervis
:
Mother's Name: Appalonia
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Name: Henry Jervis
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 21 Jul 1822
Baptism/Christening Place: METHODIST NEW CONNEXION,PENDLETON BY SALFORD,LANCASHIRE,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 22 Jun 1822
Father's Name: James Jervis
:
Mother's Name: Appalonia

Now why didn't you put all that info in your opening request ?

Nearest I could find.....

Name: Apolonia Jarvey
Gender: Female
Burial Date: 14 Jul 1848
Burial Place: Eccles, Lancashire, England
Death Date:
Death Place:
Age: 68
Birth Date: 1780
:
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: James Jarvey

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Perhaps you could post the 1841 census you found the couple on

He was living in Salford around 1800 with his wife Apolonia
1841 Census indiocated he was born in Scotland
My main interest is where abouts in Scotland was he born?

There are many James Jarvis born c 1778.
Without any other deatils it would be rash to pinpoint one of them.


When was he living in Salford?
Who was he living with?
Does it give a county of birth?
When did he die?

Has anyone any knowledge of James, a dyer, living in Salford