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Thanks to you all. I now have a lot of leads to follow up
David

pm from David (have explained about putting info on here).

"Hi
I can find information regarding his parents & siblings but have not found anything about him other than his birth,marriage & death, so am trying to fill in the gaps, like where did he live, was Edith his first wife at age 37, what was his occupation."

David, the answer to many of your questions can be gained from his marriage certificate. It will give his marital status (e.g. widower, divorced, bachelor), his occupation, where he resided, his father's name and occupation (if he knew him).

Prickles has already posted the marriage reference above, but here it is again:

Marriages Mar 1941

Knowles Edith Morgans Ince 8c 269
Morgans Thomas Knowles Ince 8c 269

You can use this reference to order a copy of the actual certificate on-line from GRO, costs £9.25
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

if there is a Calderbank connection have a look at this thread

http://genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1303936

Household transcription
1911 census

Person: CALDERBANK, Nathaniel
Address: 36 Alfred St Pemberton Wigan

CALDERBANK, Nathaniel Head Married M 32 1879 Coal Miner Hewer Lancs Welley Wigan VIEW
CALDERBANK, Mary Elizabeth Wife Married9 years F 31 1880 Lancs Manchester Road Ince VIEW
CALDERBANK, Alice Daughter Single F 11 1900 At School Lancs Wigan VIEW
CALDERBANK, Mary Elizabeth Daughter Single F 8 1903 Lancs Upholland VIEW
CALDERBANK, Robert Son Single M 6 1905 Lancs Longshire Billance VIEW
CALDERBANK, Francies Son Single M 2 1909 Lancs Pemberton VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 23077
Reference: RG14PN23077 RG78PN1347 RD458 SD5 ED21 SN76
Registration District: Wigan
Sub District: Pemberton
Enumeration District: 21
Parish: Pemberton
Address: 36 Alfred St Pemberton Wigan
County: Lancashire


Hmmm! I am not seeing an appropriate marriage for a Nathaniel Calderbank to a Mary Elizabeth..........


There a marriage in 1913...

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Nathaniel Calderbank
Name: Nathaniel Calderbank
Spouse Name: Elizabeth Atherton
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1913
Registration district: Wigan
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8c
Page Number: 37

There are a few Calderbank/Atherton births after 1913 too.

Wonder if Alice was married before ? ( or already married !)

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1876
JOWLES Alice -COLLIS Henry - Everton, St. Chrysostom Liverpool

Therea's brother ?

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1879
CALDERBANK Nathaniel -Wigan Wigan & Leigh --JOWLES

and sister

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1880
CALDERBANK Alice Maud- Wigan Wigan & Leigh- JOWLES


Not seeing amarriage to fit though

You will need to purchase Thomas (James Thomas) and Edith's Marriage certificate to confirm this information David.


1901 England Census
about Theresa Morgans
Name: Theresa Morgans
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William Morgans
Gender: Female
Where born: Wigan, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Wigan
Ecclesiastical parish: Wigan St George
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Wigan
Sub-registration district: Wigan
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 61
Piece: 3552
Folio: 159
Page Number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
William Morgans 35....Grocers Assistant
Theresa Morgans 30
Lily Morgans 10
Mary A Morgans 8
Elizabeth E Morgans 6
Maude Morgans 4
Maggie Morgans 8 Months
Nathaniel Calderbank 21 (Boarder) Coal Hewer
John Gribbin 23 (Boarder)


1891 England Census
about William Morgans
Name: William Morgans
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Son-in-law
Gender: Male
Where born: Wigan, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Wigan
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
Town: Wigan
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Wigan
Sub-registration district: Wigan
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3050
Folio: 37
Page Number: 29
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Calderbank 50 Wigan Lancs (General Labourer)
Alice Calderbank 50 Wigan Lancs
Maude Calderbank 10
Nathaniel Calderbank 11
William Morgans 25 (Son in Law)
Theresa Calderbank 20 (Daughter)
Lilly Calderbank 3/12 (Grandaughter)

Marriage 1890
CALDERBANK Theresa - MORGAN William
St. George, Wigan Wigan & Leigh

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1904
MORGANS James Thomas - Wigan Wigan & Leigh - CALDERBANK

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Marriages Mar 1890 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Caldenbsank Theresa Wigan 8c 123
Calderbank Theresa Wigan 8c 123
Greenwood Martha Wigan 8c 123
Morgans William Wigan 8c 123
O'Malley Thomas Wigan 8c 123

Oh snap LOL

1911??

Name: Thomas Morgans
Age in 1911: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1904
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Wigan, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Wigan
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 9 Wallace Lane Wigan
Registration district: Wigan
Registration District Number: 458
Sub-registration district: Wigan
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Piece: 22978
Household Members:
Name Age
William Morgans 45
Thresa Morgans 40
Lely Morgans 20
Mary Alice Morgans 18
Elizabeth Helen Morgans 16
Mande Morgans 14
Maggie Morgans 10
Willie Morgans 8
Thomas Morgans 7
Stanley Morgans 1
View image

this one ?

1911


Reg. District: Wigan
Sub District: Wigan
Parish: Wigan
Enum. District: 6
Address: 9 Wallace Lane Wigan
County: Lancashire


MORGANS, William Head Married M 45 1866 Warehouse Man Lancs Wigan
MORGANS, Thresa Wife Married
21 years F 40 1871 Lancs Wigan
MORGANS, Lily Daughter Single F 20 1891 Weaver Cotton Colier Lancs Wigan
MORGANS, Mary Alice Daughter Single F 18 1893 Weaver Cotton Colier Lancs Wigan
MORGANS, Elizabeth Helen Daughter Single F 16 1895 Cotton Spinner Lancs Wigan
MORGANS, Maude Daughter Single F 14 1897 Cotton Spinner Lancs Wigan
MORGANS, Maggie Daughter Single F 10 1901 Lancs Wigan
MORGANS, Willie Son M 8 1903 Lancs Wigan
>>>>>MORGANS, Thomas Son M 7 1904 Lancs Wigan
MORGANS, Stanley Son M 1 1910 Lancs Wigan

Hello David - you must have some information such as who he is connected to? (Or is Edith your connection?)

What sort of details are you trying to find other than would be on their marriage certificate?

He is Thomas Morgans on the marriage entry....

Marriages Mar 1941 (>99%)

Knowles Edith Morgans Ince 8c 269
Morgans Thomas Knowles Ince 8c 269

Trying to find details of James Thomas Morgans. Born 10th June 1904 in Wigan died 1970. Married Edith Knowles in 1941. No other information