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Robert Adams Marriage's

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Thomas

Thomas Report 14 Jul 2012 20:23

thank you all, very helpful. I wonder why she is called Mary on 1881 Census?

cagsie

cagsie Report 14 Jul 2012 18:53

there's a couple of trees on Ancestry that have this family in quiet a lot of detail, it seems the marriage above is correct :-)

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 14 Jul 2012 18:40

CAUTION! There's another Robert & Henrietta. His name Robert Walter, a house painter, living at 2 Canal St. he had children:
John Robert born 28 May 1878
Frederick Charles, 5 May 1880
Alfred Ernest, 10 April 1883
Bert James, 10 March 1885
Nellie Maud, 12 May 1887
Frank Henry, no birthdate given

All baptised same day 16 June 1889.


Edit: OK This is your family, the greengrocer is not.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 14 Jul 2012 18:34

The 1911 census says married 27 years, which would be c 1884:

ADAMS, Robert Head Married M 63 1848 House Painter London Islington
ADAMS, Henrietta Wife Married27 years F 57 1854 Whitechurch Hants
ADAMS, Alfred Son Single M 28 1883 Potatoe Porter London
ADAMS, Leonard Son Single M 21 1890 Builder Labour London
ADAMS, Minnie Daughter Single F 18 1893 Syphoon Packer London
ADAMS, Florence Daughter Single F 17 1894 Tobacco Packer London

RG number: RG14 Piece: 1227 Reference: RG14PN1227 RG78PN42 RD14 SD2 ED12 SN400
Registration District: Holborn
Sub District: Clerkenwell
Enumeration District: 12
Parish: St James and St John Clerkenwell

Address: 3a Lloyds Row EC County: London

EDIT: The original image clearly says 37 years married (not 27 as transcribed) - that ties with the marriage that Julie posted above.

Twelve children born, ten survived.

patchem

patchem Report 14 Jul 2012 18:31

In the 1881 and 1891 censuses he is a painter not a green grocer.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 14 Jul 2012 18:31

Same parents, same address here, father a greengrocer:

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about William Ernést Adams Name: William Ernést Adams
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1876
Baptism Date: 11 Dec 1876
Father's Name: Robert Adams
Mother's name: Henrietta Adams
Parish or Poor Law Union: Gray´s Inn Road St Jude
Borough: Camden
Register Type: Parish Registers

Born 1 Dec. 1876.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 14 Jul 2012 18:27

If this is your Alce, mother's name is Henrietta:

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Alice Elizabeth Adams Name: Alice Elizabeth Adams
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1878
Baptism Date: 19 Jun 1878
Father's Name: Robert Adams
Mother's name: Henrietta Adams
Parish or Poor Law Union: Gray´s Inn Road St Jude
Borough: Camden
Register Type: Parish Registers

Born 31 Oct. 1875. Address 40A Brittania St. Father a greengrocer.

Baptised same day, same father, same address:
Charles William born 19 Nov. 1877.

Julie

Julie Report 14 Jul 2012 18:26

It might be worth for you to get 1 of the childrens BC for their MMN

There is this marriage

Marriages Dec 1874 (>99%)
>>>>ADAMS Robert Walter Holborn 1b 1109
Freeland James Holborn 1b 1109
Frid Emma Holborn 1b 1109
>>>>>SMITH Henrietta Holborn 1b 1109
_______________________________

this could be your Roberts birth Middle name matches

Births Dec 1848 (>99%)
Adams Robert Walter Islington 3 287

patchem

patchem Report 14 Jul 2012 18:26

The 1891 census still has his wife from Hampshire (Henrietta from Portsmouth) though a slightly different age (36)

Added (bound to find a Robert Adams marrying a Henrietta somewhere and time):
?
Marriages Dec 1874
ADAMS Robert Walter Holborn 1b 1109
SMITH Henrietta Holborn 1b 1109

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 14 Jul 2012 18:25

Posting the 1891 for reference:

ADAMS, Charles Head Widower M 74 1817 Tailor St Martins, London
ADAMS, James Son Single M 38 1853 House Painter Islington, London
ADAMS, Robert Son M 41 1850 House Painter Islington, London
ADAMS, Henrietta Daughter In Law Married F 36 1855 Portsmouth, Hampshire
ADAMS, Alice Granddaughter Single F 14 1877 Domestic Servant Islington, London
ADAMS, John Grandson Single M 11 1880 Scholar Islington, London
ADAMS, Frederick Grandson M 9 1882 Scholar Islington, London
ADAMS, Alfred Grandson M 7 1884 Scholar Islington, London
ADAMS, Bert Grandson M 5 1886 Scholar Islington, London
ADAMS, Nellie Granddaughter F 3 1888 Islington, London
ADAMS, Frank Grandson M 2 1889 Islington, London
ADAMS, Lionel Grandson M 0 (4M) 1891 Islington, London

Piece: 154 Folio: 33 Page: 1
Registration District: Islington
Civil Parish: Islington

Address: 2, Canal Terrace, Islington, London County: London
_______________________________________________________________

and the 1901:

ADAMS, Robert Head Married M 52 1849 House Painter Islington, London
ADAMS, Henrietta Wife Married F 46 1855 Whitchurch, Hampshire
ADAMS, Alfred Son Single M 17 1884 Railway Carman Islington, London
ADAMS, Bertie Son Single M 16 1885 Van Guard Islington, London
ADAMS, Nellie Daughter Single F 13 1888 Islington, London
ADAMS, Frank Son Single M 12 1889 Islington, London
ADAMS, Minnie Daughter Single F 8 1893 Islington, London
ADAMS, Florence Daughter Single F 6 1895 Islington, London

Piece: 185 Folio: 86 Page: 4
Registration District: Islington
Civil Parish: Islington

Address: 10, Providence Row, Islington County: London

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 14 Jul 2012 18:23

?????????

Robert Adams
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1849 Islington,? London
census: 31 Mar 1901 St Martin In The Fields,? London,? Middlesex,? England


name: Robert Adams
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Male
age: 52
relationship to head of household: Head
birthplace: Islington, London
record type: Household
registration district: Strand
sub-district: St Martin In The Fields
ecclesiastical parish: St Martin
civil parish: St Martin In The Fields
county: London, Middlesex

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 14 Jul 2012 18:17

Robert Adams
England and Wales Census, 1891
birth: Islington
census: 1891 England


name: Robert Adams
event: Census
event date: 1891
gender: Male
age: 41
relationship to head of household: Head
birthplace: Islington
record type: Household
registration district: Islington
sub-district: Highbury
ecclesiastical parish: St Judes
civil parish: Islington
county: London, Middlesex

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 14 Jul 2012 18:16

Robert Adams
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1849 Islington,? London
census: 31 Mar 1901 Islington,? London,? Middlesex,? England


name: Robert Adams
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Male
age: 52
relationship to head of household: Head
birthplace: Islington, London
record type: Household
registration district: Islington
sub-district: Barnsbury
ecclesiastical parish: St James
civil parish: Islington
county: London, Middlesex

Robert Adams
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1849 Islington,? London
census: 31 Mar 1901 St Martin In The Fields,? London,? Middlesex,? England


name: Robert Adams
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Male
age: 52
relationship to head of household: Head
birthplace: Islington, London
record type: Household
registration district: Strand
sub-district: St Martin In The Fields
ecclesiastical parish: St Martin
civil parish: St Martin In The Fields
county: London, Middlesex

patchem

patchem Report 14 Jul 2012 18:03

This is a possibly related thread:
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1303887

Added:
For reference
1881 England Census
Robert Adams Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Son Father's Name: Charles Adams
Mother's name: Jane Adams
Gender: Male Where born: London Islington, London, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: St Pancras Islington County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 2 Bath Place
Condition as to marriage: Married Occupation: Painter
Registration district: Islington Sub-registration district: Islington West
ED, institution, or vessel: 23 Piece: 230 Folio: 127
Page Number: 36
Charles Adams 64
Jane Adams 64
James Adams 30
Robert Adams 32
Mary Adams 28 Hampshire
Alice Adams 5 London
John Adams 2 London
Patience Lawrence 28
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 230; Folio: 127; Page: 36; GSU roll: 1341050.

Alice and John probably meant to be recorded as children of Robert and Mary.

Have you got children's birth certificates for Mother's maiden name?

Thomas

Thomas Report 14 Jul 2012 17:51

Im trying to work out what is going on with an ancestor of mine, Robert Adams born 1850 in Islington, London.

On the 1881 Census he is living at home with his father Charles as head, his mother Jane, and his brother james. James is listed as single, robert as married and Mary Adams is listed as 'wife of son' with two children john and alice who are listed as son and daughter of the head.

In 1891 I think Jane has died but the family are still living with Charles. James is still single, and Robert is still married but the woman listed as daughter in law is a Henrietta Adams with john and alice now grandshildren and more grandchildren added to the list.

I cant find the marriage record of robert to either mary or henrietta. Any help would be great,

Thanks