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Hi, I am trying to trace the parents of Joseph Sturman born abt 1821 Northampton. He married Eliza Vears Oct 1851. They had 5 children George, Emma, Eliza, Charlotte and Lucy between 1853 and 1866. I have the census details on him for 1861,71,81,91 and 1901, but am stuck with finding his parents. Any help or suggestions, hopefully from someone also searching this family would be very welcome. Damian
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His father (if known) will be named on the marriage cert
To find links on GR.look in 'search trees'
Try the IGI for possible baptism.............
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/default.asp
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1841
Name: Joseph Sturman Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Gender: Male Where born: Northamptonshire, England Civil parish: St Giles Hundred: Northampton County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England
Registration district: Northampton Sub-registration district: St Giles Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 814 Book: 9 Folio: 7 Page Number: 7 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Sturman 35 Elizth Sturman 35 Joseph Sturman 15 Wm Sturman 12 Joseph Sturman 20
1851
Name: Joseph Stenman [Joseph Sturman] Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Relation: Nephew Gender: M (Male) Where born: Northamptonshire, England Civil parish: Northampton St Giles Ecclesiastical parish: St Edmund and St Giles Town: Northampton County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England
Registration district: Northampton Sub-registration district: St Giles ED, institution, or vessel: 6f Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 60 Piece: 1739 Folio: 187 Page Number: 17 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Stenman 47 Elizabeth Stenman 48 Joseph Stenman 30 John Richardson 20 Jame Richardson 17 Charlotte Bale 10
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Hi could this be possible for him in 1841
1841 Census Household Record Household information Address Chapel Place Parish St Giles District Northampton, St Giles Administrative County Northamptonshire
Householder 1 Name Joseph Sturman Age 35 Estimated Year of Birth 1806 Relationship to Head of Household Occupation Birth Place Northamptonshire Birth County Northamptonshire
Householder 2 Name Elizth Sturman Age 35 Estimated Year of Birth 1806 Relationship to Head of Household Occupation Birth Place Northamptonshire Birth County Northamptonshire
Householder 3 Name Joseph Sturman Age 15 Estimated Year of Birth 1826 Relationship to Head of Household Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Northamptonshire Birth County Northamptonshire
Householder 4 Name Wm Sturman Age 12 Estimated Year of Birth 1829 Relationship to Head of Household Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Northamptonshire Birth County Northamptonshire
Householder 5 Name Joseph Sturman Age 20 Estimated Year of Birth 1821 Relationship to Head of Household Occupation Birth Place Northamptonshire Birth County Northamptonshire
Householder 6 Name Elizth Butlin Age 20 Estimated Year of Birth 1821 Relationship to Head of Household Occupation Birth Place Northamptonshire Birth County Northamptonshire
Householder 7 Name Ann Butlin Age 20 Estimated Year of Birth 1821 Relationship to Head of Household Occupation Birth Place Northamptonshire Birth County Northamptonshire
Householder 8 Name George Hacksley Age 20 Estimated Year of Birth 1821 Relationship to Head of Household Occupation Birth Place Northamptonshire Birth County Northamptonshire
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Neither his marriage nor his baptism are among the records on Ancestry
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Suggestion ONLY
If the marriage cert, when you get it, has no father's name, this COULD be him
name: Joseph Sturman gender: Male baptism/christening date: 08 Oct 1822 baptism/christening place: Barton-Earls, Northampton, England birth date: birthplace: death date: name note: race: father's name: father's birthplace: father's age: mother's name: Lucy Sturman mother's birthplace: mother's age: indexing project (batch) number: I02024-5
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This is the cousin's baptism - note the location
name: Joseph Sturman gender: Male baptism/christening date: 08 Oct 1827 baptism/christening place: Barton-Earls, Northampton, England birth date: birthplace: death date: name note: race: father's name: Joseph Sturman father's birthplace: father's age: mother's name: Elisabeth mother's birthplace: mother's age: indexing project (batch) number: I02024-5 system origin: England-EASy source film number: 1999017 reference number: item 2 p 42
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1911 Census Household Record Household information Address Station Long Buckby Rugby Parish Long Buckby Type of Building Railway Station Number of Rooms 6 Six Inhabited Y Reference RG14PN8474 RG78PN438 RD164 SD3 ED3 SN11 Administrative County Northamptonshire Registration District Daventry Registration Sub District Long Buckby Enumeration District 3
Householder 1 Name William Samuel Shirley Relationship to Head of Household Head Condition / Years Married / Years Gender M Age 42 Estimated Year of Birth 1869 Occupation Bootmaker Employed Y Working at Home N Industry Boot Manufacturer Place of Birth Northampton
Householder 2 Name Charlotte Vears Shirley Relationship to Head of Household Wife Condition / Years Married / 20 Years Total Children Born Alive 4 Children Still Living 3 Children Who Have Died 1 Gender F Age 48 Estimated Year of Birth 1863 Employed N Working at Home N Place of Birth Northampton
Householder 3 Name Charlotte Annie Shirley Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Condition / Years Married / Years Gender F Age 19 Estimated Year of Birth 1892 Occupation Boot Fitter Employed Y Working at Home N Industry Boot Manufactuirer Place of Birth Northampton
Householder 4 Name Walter Edgar Shirley Relationship to Head of Household Son Condition / Years Married / Years Gender M Age 15 Estimated Year of Birth 1896 Occupation Boot Manufacturer Clerk Employed Y Working at Home N Industry Boot Manufactuirer Place of Birth Northampton
Householder 5 Name Ernest Alfred Shirley Relationship to Head of Household Son Gender M Age 11 Estimated Year of Birth 1900 Occupation School Employed Y Working at Home N Place of Birth Northampton
Householder 6 Name Joseph Sturman Relationship to Head of Household Father In Law Condition / Years Married / Years Gender M Age 90 Estimated Year of Birth 1821 Occupation Retired Bootmaker Employed Y Working at Home N Place of Birth Northampton
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Thanks, had come across the earls barton link before and have found on FreeReg Search some info as an illegitimate child to lucy sturman. Will probably be unlikely that i'll find his father without his marrige certificate, if it is included.
Damian
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