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George Pinder born 1876 East Ardsley, Yorkshire emigrated to South Africa in the early 1900's.

On FMP there is a record of G Pinder leaving Southampton for Durban in 1903.

George's wife's name was Annie, born 1880, and there is also a record in 1908 of A Pinder from Southamptom to Durban.

I don't have a subscription on FMP to check the transcripts so I would be obliged if someone could check the records for me.

Thanks,

Ian

Name: Mr G PINDER
Date of departure: 15 August 1903
Port of departure: Southampton
Passenger destination port: Durban (Port Natal), South Africa
Passenger destination: Durban (Port Natal), South Africa

Date of Birth: 1877 (calculated from age)
Age: 26
Marital status: Single
Sex: Male
Occupation: Smith
Passenger recorded on: Page 4 of 8






Name: Mrs PINDER
Date of departure: 20 June 1908
Port of departure: Southampton
Passenger destination port: Durban (Port Natal), South Africa
Passenger destination: Durban (Port Natal), South Africa

Date of Birth:
Age:
Marital status: Single
Sex: Female
Occupation: Nil
Passenger recorded on: Page 3 of 6




The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -

Miss PINDER Page 3 of 6 View transcript

Thanks for that Astra but that can't be him. He married his wife Annie in 1900 so doubt he would lie about his status.

Cheers,

Ian

Thanks again Astra.

It seems strange that the lady is listed as MRS Pinder yet Marital status says SINGLE.

Perhaps whoever wrote the lists made a couple of mistakes re the Marital status?

Cheers,

Ian

I was just checking his occupation on the marriage entry


West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935
Name: George Pinder <<<Signal fitter
Birth Year: abt 1876
Age: 24
Marriage or Bann Date: 18 Aug 1900
Parish: Bramley, St Peter
Father's Name: James Thomas Pinder <<Signalman
Spouse's Name: Annie Warrington
Spouse's Father's Name: John Myers Warrington

That guy on the shipping record is a 'Smith' so I doubt it's him?


Whats the last UK record you have of him?


West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910
Name: Stephen Alwynne Pinder
Parish: East Ardsley, St Michael
Baptism Date: 2 Feb 1902
Father's Name: George Pinder <<<Signal Fitter
Mother's name: Annie Pinder

George Pinder
England and Wales Census, 1881
birth: 1876 Lofthouse,? Yorkshire,? England
census: 1881 East Ardsley,? Yorkshire (West Riding),? England
parents: James Thos Pinder,? Mary Ann Pinder


name: George Pinder
age: 5
gender: Male
birth year: 1876
birthplace: Lofthouse, Yorkshire, England
relationship to head of household: Son
marital condition: Single
profession/occupation: Scholar
address: Fall Lane
census place: East Ardsley, Yorkshire (West Riding), England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1342106
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 4584 / 9
page number: 16

Hi Gins and AnnC,

Yes, you've got the correct George there.

The last two records I have are George's marriage to Annie and the Baptism of Stephen Alwynne at St Micheal's, East Ardsley 2/2/1902.

I have been told he went to South Africa and died there in 1956.

As George and family do not appear on the 1911 census it leads me beleive he must have gone to South Africa between 1902 and 1911.

Ian

Name: Mr S A PINDAR (this looks like G A PINDAR on original)

Date of departure: 13 February 1912
Port of departure: Southampton
Destination port: Cape
Destination country: South Africa

Date of Birth:
Age:
Marital Status: Married
Sex: Male
Occupation: Railway Off
Notes:
Passenger recorded on: Page 2 of 6

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The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -

Mrs PINDAR

Miss N PINDAR

Mast S PINDAR


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Ship: GRANTULLY CASTLE
Official Number: 129058
Master's name: J George
Steamship Line: The Union-Castle Mail Steamship Co Ltd
Where bound: South Africa
Square feet: 5612
Registered tonnage: 4794
Passengers on voyage: 153




this looks like the same family -

UK address - Spring Valley Farm, Bramley, Leeds


Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960

Name: Mr G A PINDAR

Date of departure: 25 July 1931
Port of departure: Southampton
Destination port: Cape
Destination country: South Africa

Date of Birth: 1876 (calculated from age)
Age: 55
Marital Status: Married
Sex: Male
Occupation: Railway
Notes:
Passenger recorded on: Page 4 of 15

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The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -

Mrs A PINDAR (age 50)

Miss N PINDAR (age 21) - Typist


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Ship: KENILWORTH CASTLE
Official Number: 118433
Master's name: Capt A Barron
Steamship Line: Union-Castle Mail S S Co Ltd
Where bound: South Africa
Square feet: 5765
Registered tonnage: 7185
Passengers on voyage: 432

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960

Name: Nancie Pindar
Birth Date: abt 1910
Age: 10
Port of Departure: Durban, South Africa
Arrival Date: 21 Jun 1920
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ports of Voyage: East London
[Port Elizabeth]
[Cape Town]
Ship Name: Edinburgh Castle
Search Ship Database: View the 'Edinburgh Castle' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Union-Castle Mail Steamship Company Ltd
Official Number: 129088

travelling with mother Annie



UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960

Name: Nancie Pindar
Birth Date: abt 1910
Age: 21
Port of Departure: Durban, South Africa
Arrival Date: 29 Jun 1931
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ports of Voyage: East London
[Port Elizabeth]
[Cape Town]
Ship Name: Armadale Castle
Search Ship Database: View the 'Armadale Castle' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Union-Castle Mail Steamship Company Ltd
Official Number: 118350


travelling with father George Aldwyn Pindar and mother Annie Pinder

going to Spring Valley Farm, Bramley, Leeds

Hi Choccy,

Yes, that's the family. Annie's father lived at Spring Valley Farm in Bramley.

If 1912 was their first date of departure to S. Africa I had better start looking at the 1911 census again using name variants.

Thanks very much for the information.

Cheers,

Ian

I've tried all sorts of variations for the 1911 census, but I can't find them. Have you any idea where Nancie would have been born; it might help in locating them. I can't see a birth for her in the Bramley reg district (if in fact she was registered as Nancie).

I think they must have left earlier if this is them:
UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 about Mrs Annie Pindar
Name: Mrs Annie Pindar
Port of Departure: London, United Kingdom
Arrival Date: 27 Jul 1911
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ports of Voyage: Cape Town
[London]
Ship Name: Garth Castle

Mrs Annie Pindar 27 Jul 1911 London, United Kingdom Southampton, England
Miss Nancie Pindar 27 Jul 1911 London, United Kingdom Southampton, England
Mrs Stephen Pindar 27 Jul 1911 London, United Kingdom

Maureen

Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960

Name: Mstr S PINDAR
Date of departure: 19 December 1903
Port of departure: Southampton
Destination port: Durban (Port Natal)
Destination country: South Africa

Date of Birth: 1900 (calculated from age)
Age: 3
Marital Status:
Sex: Not specified
Passenger recorded on: Page 3 of 11
The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -
Mrs A PINDAR
Ship: GUELPH
Official Number: 104040
Master's name: J W Hague R N R
Steamship Line: Donald Currie & Company
Where bound: South Africa
Square feet: 6379
Registered tonnage: 3112
Passengers on voyage: 356

Maureen

Hi Choccy and Maureen,

Like you Choccy I tried all combinations I could think of in the 1911 census but no luck.

Stephen was recorded on the 1901 census as being 1 month old, so born late Feb. or early Mar. 1901.

With all the toing and frowing it looks like Nacie was born in South Africa as I couldn't find a birth in Yorkshire.

If Annie and son Stephen departed 19/12/1903 it looks like George went out to S. Africa prior to them and they went to join him.

At least your information fills a gap in the family history for which I thank you both.

I'll have to have a go at putting a question on another site, I'm sure you both know which one, and see if there are any records of the family in S. Africa.to be found.

Again, thanks very much to you all for your efforts to assist me.

Cheers,

Ian

Hi All who helped,

With your details re the various goings and returns to UK of George and family, and the help of a lady in South Africa, I have now got details relating to the family in S Africa.

Stephen died in 1925 in an accident while serving in the SAAF. Nancie was born in S Africa and married there.

George died in 1956 and wife Annie died in 1957.

Thanks again for all your help.

Regards,

Ian