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Guess that's a resounding No then.

If I expand a little, I am not a professional, just a Genes member trying to help a friend

She was born in 1957 and was adopted. She knows both the names of her biological parents from her adoption file. Not sure if her mother is still alive ( b 1920) she was alive in 2006, she has 2 half siblings from her mother's side neither of whom have been contacted yet as no contact with the mother was requested following a letter sent some years ago .

Father had 4 other children so they would also be her half siblings, I have snippets of info about them, father's name and rough age, thechildrens' sexes ,a rough age of one, details from an electoral roll from the sixties which has some similar surnames on but I can't make the link between these ( shall we call them 'smiths' and the father 'smith', maybe just a coincidence . The name of the father is a common name unfortunately.

It is these children that she has asked me to see if I could find, tall order I know

thanks for your time in reading this

Janet

To start with, have you looked to see if any of them are in people's trees on here?

This gives some deaths;
http://www.iannounce.co.uk/

Yes, and checked I announce and googled and done all the things I would normally do.

the ones whose names I know but they are on the mother's side and unless I can find out if she has died my friend doesn't want to rock the boat by contacting her children yet.

the fathers name is so common , (and I don't yet know his childrens names), that to do a search with one year either side gives 15 pages

Janet

Would it have been better to post this on the "Find Living Relatives" Board ?

Just a thought :-)

Another site with death announcements

http://www.thisisannouncements.co.uk/5503975

If your friends hasn't yet added herelf to the national adoption contact register she should do so.

IF her half-siblings are aware of her, and are looking for her, they may have tried the same route.

It may, of course, be that they are totally unaware, and would be shocked to find out

thanks reggie i will suggest this to her and check that link

we feel sure that the children on both sides must have known of her shall we say 'pending arrival' due to the assumed ages. They would have been of an age to ask questions. Maybe they were told she didn't survive.

The mothers son I am pretty convinced I have found and we could contact him by email via a website but we don't want to rock the boat if the mother is still alive having been asked not to.

Elizabeth

possibly, but what would I put ? I don't want to post a name to maintain the privacy my friend has asked for , didn't know what to do for best really.

Jan

Children in those days weren't as likely to 'ask questions' as they are now.

As she was born (presumably) out of wedlock, her impending arrival would not have been broadcast.

And pregnant women , generally, were more discreet about their condition. They didn't wear the disgustingly clinging clothes which seem to be the 'norm' today during pregnancy

maybe so

I have had 4 children myself and I assure you even with being discreet with my dress there is no way anyone would not have known I was pregnant

children are the very ones who do ask questions because they dont understand discretion

Jan

If your friend has her adoption papers it will say where she was adopted. my advice would be to find out if that council has a post adoption officer ( most do nowadays) as they are very helpful, if not make sure she adds her name to the adoption register

she has had someone from NORCAP try to help but they haven;t got any further than I have with any certainties regarding her paternal side

I will pass on your suggestions

thanks

Jan

Hi Janet,

You commented that looking for births with one year either side, using the father's surname generated 15 pages or so.

Was this on a search that was restricted to one registration district, or was it a full England and Wales search?

a full search as I dont know for sure where they came from

Jan

Now sorted with some help from a very kind lady by personal messages

Have been in contact with maternal half brother and now have some names and addresses for paternal side

Good result

Jan

Well done Jan - I am very pleased for you and your friend !

Dea Xxx

Thanks

and she now has seen a photo of her birth mum for the first time in 55 years

Jan

Ohhh - that must have been a very magical moment !!

Dea xxx