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Thanks mgnv the info is great and much appreciated. I had a quick look at family search the other night and thought what a great site. Thanks once again.

I can't be sure what's on the 1841 - I've no sub - but I think David is Peter's bro

name: David Lines
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 01 Jul 1838
baptism/christening place: Chipping Warden, Northampton, England
birth date:
father's name: John Lines
mother's name: Elizabeth
indexing project (batch) number: I00630-4
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 6127009
reference number: yr 1813-1862 p 53
Source Citation
"England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J7Y9-8QT : accessed 12 July 2012), David Lines, 1838.

To confirm Peter's mum is Elizabeth Franklin, I think you'll have to get David's b.cert:

Births Sep 1838 (>99%)
LINES David Banbury 16 1

I think this is Peter's dad:
groom's name: John Lines
groom's age:
bride's name: Elizabeth Franklin
bride's age:
marriage date: 28 Sep 1814
marriage place: Banbury,Oxford,England
groom's marital status:
bride's marital status:
indexing project (batch) number: M02639-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 0990430 IT 2, 1696464 IT 4-5
reference number:
Source Citation
"England, Marriages, 1538–1973 ," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N2BT-Y45 : accessed 12 July 2012), John Lines, 1814.

Deaths Jun 1868 (>99%)
Lines John Habit 75 Banbury 3a 393

To trace Susanna back, I think you'll need her m.cert

Marriages Mar 1846 (>99%)
Hall Susannah Brackley 15 305
Lines Peter Brackley 15 305

Brackley is 9 m ESE of Banbury - they are the centres of adjacent rego districts.
Brackley RD is in Northants, but Banbury RD straddles Northants and Oxford - indeed, so does the parish of Banbury.
Chipping Warden is 6m NNE of Banbury, in Northants.

1871 [Edgcott, Northamptonshire in Banbury subdistrict of Banbury RD]
Arden Bayley abt 1796 city, Northamptonshire, England Head
Charlotte Bayley name abt 1830 city, Northamptonshire, England Daughter
Sophia Bayley abt 1864 city, Kent, England Granddaughter
[***]Ann Lines abt 1857 Chipping Warden , Northamptonshire, England Servant
John Bolin abt 1850 city, Oxfordshire, England Servant
[rg10/1465/29/22]
Peter & Susan are on page 11 of the same Enumerstion District [rg10/1465/24/11]


1881 England Census
Civil parish: Chipping Warden
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England
Registration district: Banbury
Sub-registration district: Banbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 8

Peter Lines 61 C Warden Head M Ag Lab
Susan Lines 59 Culworth, Northamptonshire, England Wife M

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 1528; Folio: 21; Page: 9; GSU roll: 1341368.


1891 Census
Piece: RG12/1183 Place: Banbury -Oxfordshire Enumeration District: 6
Civil Parish: Chipping Warden Ecclesiastical Parish: St Peter
Folio: 96 Page: 6 Schedule: 45
Address: Chipping Warden
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Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
LINES Susan Head W F 70 No Occupation Northamptonshire - Culworth


Deaths Dec 1890 (>99%)
Lines Peter Prophet 71 Banbury 3a 558

Deaths Mar 1898 (>99%)
Lines Susanna 76 Banbury 3a 646

Peter & Susan are easy to find on the census 1851-1881 (Susana 1851, FMP has Peter LiMes in 1861).
The kids are gone by 1871.


Using https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1®ion=UNITED_KINGDOM_IRELAND

name: Peter Propit Lines
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 20 Aug 1820
baptism/christening place: Chipping Warden, Northampton, England
birth date:
father's name: John Abbott Lines
mother's name: Elizabeth
indexing project (batch) number: I00630-4
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 6127009
reference number: yr 1813-1862 p 14
Source Citation
"England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JSNM-KSZ : accessed 12 July 2012), Peter Propit Lines, 1820.


name: Elizabeth Lines
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 30 Jan 1848
baptism/christening place: Chipping Warden, Northampton, England
birth date:
father's name: Peter Prophet Lines
father's birthplace:
mother's name: Susannah
indexing project (batch) number: I00630-5
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 6127009
reference number: yr 1813-1862 p 72
Source Citation
"England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JSNM-VB8 : accessed 12 July 2012), Peter Prophet Lines in entry for Elizabeth Lines, 1848.

name: Mary Ann Lines
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 07 Oct 1849
baptism/christening place: Chipping Warden, Northampton, England
birth date:
father's name: Peter Profit Lines
mother's name: Susanna
indexing project (batch) number: I00630-5
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 6127009
reference number: yr 1813-1862 p 74
Source Citation
"England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NVXM-12H : accessed 12 July 2012), Peter Profit Lines in entry for Mary Ann Lines, 1849.

name: Ann Lines
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 13 Jul 1856
baptism/christening place: Chipping Warden, Northampton, England
birth date:
father's name: Peter Lines
mother's name: Susanna
indexing project (batch) number: I00630-5
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 6127009
reference number: yr 1813-1862 p 87
Source Citation
"England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NVXM-16Y : accessed 12 July 2012), Peter Lines in entry for Ann Lines, 1856.

A poss match for that is:
Births Sep 1856 (>99%)
LINES Ann Banbury 3a 577


groom's name: Thomas Palmer
groom's birth date: 1847
groom's age: 37
bride's name: Mary Ann Lines
bride's birth date: 1848
bride's age: 36
marriage date: 28 Aug 1884
marriage place: St. Peter & St. Paul, Aston, Warwick, England
groom's father's name: Thomas Palmer
bride's father's name: Peter Lines
groom's marital status: Widowed
bride's marital status: Single
indexing project (batch) number: M00711-7
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1545534
reference number: item 4, p 32, no 63
Source Citation
"England, Marriages, 1538–1973 ," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NF88-TDX : accessed 12 July 2012), Peter Lines in entry for Thomas Palmer and Mary Ann Lines, 1884.

Annies fathers Peter is stated as labourer on the Wedding Cert. The address is Dudley Street, assume that was in Birmingham but may not be. Marriage took place in St. Catherines Church in the district of Birmingham

So what was the occupation of father Peter on the marriage cert ?

Thanks everyone had some really useful info. Have found i think Peter Lines in 1841 an 1851 census. Looks as if he was born in 1821 in Banbury and married a Susannah Hall in 1846. Cant find any record of them in 1861 census and Annie still hard to trace before she was married. Easy to trace after she married.

Thanks everyone for all the help.

This appears to be the only marriage of a Peter Lines, fits with the census posted by GB

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Mar 1846 (>99%)
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Hall Susannah Brackley 15 305
Lines Peter Brackley 15 305


Andy

could this be a possible

1871 Census Household Record Household information
Address Cox Street
Parish Birmingham
District Birmingham, St Paul
Administrative County Warwickshire

Householder 1
Name Thomas Lines
Age 41
Estimated Year of Birth 1830
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation
Birth Place Warwickshire
Birth County Warwickshire

Householder 2
Name Ann Lines
Age 40
Estimated Year of Birth 1831
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Birth Place Warwickshire
Birth County Warwickshire

Householder 3
Name Ann Lines
Age 12
Estimated Year of Birth 1859
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Warwickshire
Birth County Warwickshire

Householder 4
Name Eliza Lines
Age 10
Estimated Year of Birth 1861
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Warwickshire
Birth County Warwickshire

1891

1891 England Census
about Richard Can
Name: Richard Can
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Annie Can
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham

Civil parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: Immanuel
Town: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St Thomas
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2379
Folio: 28
Page Number: 3
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Can 35
Annie Can 34
Richard Can 9
Kate Can 7
Mary A Can 4
Agnes Can 2




Andy

1861 just posting while still having a look around

Name: Ann Lines
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Peter Lines
Mother's name: Susan Lines
Gender: Female
Where born: C Warden, Northamptonshire, England

Civil parish: Chipping Warden
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Banbury
Sub-registration district: Banbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 67
Piece: 919
Folio: 23
Page Number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
Peter Lines 40
Susan Lines 39
Elizabeth Lines 13
Mary Ann Lines 12
Ann Lines 5




Need some feedback on that marriage cert

1901 Census Household Record Household information
Address Blucher St 3ct 3 House
Civil Parish B Ham
Rural District
Town or Village or Hamlet B Ham
Ecclesiastical Parish St Thomas
Parliamentary Borough or Division Central Division
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District B Ham
Administrative County Birmingham

Householder 1
Name Agnes Carr
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 12
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation School Girl
Employment Status
Where Born Bham
Language
Infirmity

Householder 2
Name Annie Carr
Relation to Head of Family Wife
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 44
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Bham
Language
Infirmity

Householder 3
Name Harry Carr
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 7
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation School Boy
Employment Status
Where Born Bham
Language
Infirmity

Householder 4
Name Kate Carr
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 17
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation Glass Cutter
Employment Status
Where Born Bham
Language
Infirmity

Householder 5
Name Mary Ann Carr
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 14
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation Glass Cutter
Employment Status
Where Born Bham
Language
Infirmity

Householder 6
Name Richard Carr
Relation to Head of Family Head
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 44
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation ...
Employment Status
Where Born Bham
Language
Infirmity

Probably listed as Lins or Lynes

Keep looking at the family in 1871 called Lins but she was born later in 1861

Born 1856 her birth may not have been registered, There were no penalties for late or none registration till 1875

Do they give an address on the marriage certificate?

Regards Vera

Hi Margaret and welcome to the GR boards


1881 census for ref

1881 England Census
about Ann Carr
Name: Ann Carr
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Richard Carr
Gender: Female
Where born: Birmm

Civil parish: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address: 8 C 9 H New Inkleys
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Tea Pot Maker

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St Thomas
ED, institution, or vessel: 36
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2979
Folio: 90
Page Number: 41
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Carr 22
Ann Carr 24


Andy

1881 is this the couple

Name: Richard Carr
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann Carr
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmm

Civil parish: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address: 8 C 9 H New Inkleys
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Clock Case Maker

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St Thomas
ED, institution, or vessel: 36
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2979
Folio: 90
Page Number: 41
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Carr 22
Ann Carr 24



Gives Birmingham as place of birth but sometimes they put where they were living

Have you found her on later census ?

What is the occupation of her father from the marriage cert ?

Witnessess ?