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Yes,that's what I was pointing out. Nellie's mmn is given as Dootson on Lancs BMD.
Maureen
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Edith Dootson was the first wife of John Thornley he later married Ada Clarckson Hunt and they had 5 children one of which was my Grandmother.
Possibly Nellie and Mary Alice where John and Edith's children?
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Thanks yes have found Nellie on both FreeBMD and also both Nellie and Mary Alice's MI on there grave
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Not sure about Mary Alice but this looks like Nellie:
http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/births.php
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1884
THORNLEY Nellie Horwich Bolton DOOTSON HOR/16/422
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Marriages Jun 1881
DOOTSON Edith Bolton 8c 525
THORNLEY John Bolton 8c 525
Maureen
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you have got me thinking now who's children Mary Alice and Nellie belong to, I can see that Margaret is shown as single in the 1911 Census, I wonder if they are children of one of her brothers?
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1901: Nellie and Mary A Thornley living with Samuel's daughter Margaret and described as her nieces so must be Samuel's grandchildren.
1901:
Name: Margaret Thornley
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Westhoughton, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Westhoughton
Ecclesiastical parish: West Houghton St Bartholomew
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
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Registration district: Bolton
Sub-registration district: Horwich
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 105
Piece: 3612
Folio: 89
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
Margaret Thornley 42
Mary A Thornley 18
Nellie Thornley 16
1911:
Name: Margaret Thornley
Age in 1911: 51
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Westhoughton, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Westhoughton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 52 Leigh Rd, Westhoughton, Lancs
Marital Status: Single
Registration district: Bolton
Registration District Number: 461
Sub-registration district: Horwich
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Piece: 23344
Household Members:
Name Age
Margaret Thornley 51
Mary Alice Thornley 28
Nellie Thornley 26
James Dootson 62
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could you have a look at the 1891 Census what relationship are Mary A and Nellie Thornley to Samuel are they his Grandchildren
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1851:
Name: Saml Thornley
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: M Thornley
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Westhoughton, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Westhoughton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
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Registration district: Bolton
Sub-registration district: Westhoughton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1f
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 4
Piece: 2207
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
Saml Thornley 28
M Thornley 25
Jas Platt 24
1861:
Name: Samuel Thornley
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Thornley
Gender: Male
Where born: Westhoughton, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Westhoughton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
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Registration district: Bolton
Sub-registration district: Westhoughton
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 6
Piece: 2811
Folio: 17
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Thornley 38
Mary Thornley 35
John Thornley 6
Margaret Thornley 2
George Thornley 7 Months
1871:
Name: Samuel Thornley
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Thornley
Gender: Male
Where born: Westhoughton, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Westhoughton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Bolton
Sub-registration district: West Houghton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 55
Piece: 3924
Folio: 7
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Thornley 48
Mary Thornley 45
John Thornley 16
Margaret Thornley 12
George Thornley 10
1881:
Name: Samuel Thornley
Age: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Thornley
Gender: Male
Where born: Westhoughton, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Westhoughton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 40 Market St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:
Employment status:
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Occupation: Silk Loom Jobber
Registration district: Bolton
Sub-registration district: West Houghton
ED, institution, or vessel: 4b
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3822
Folio: 8
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Thornley 58
Mary Thornley 55
Jno. Thornley 26
Margt. Thornley 22
George Thornley 20
???? Same address as 1881 so obviously the same man but recorded with a different forename.
1891:
Name: John Thornley
Age: 68
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Thornley
Gender: Male
Where born: Westhoughton, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Westhoughton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew
Town: Westhoughton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
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Registration district: Bolton
Sub-registration district: Horwich
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3106
Folio: 101
Page Number: 37
Household Members:
Name Age
John Thornley 68
Mary Thornley 65
Margaret Thornley 32
George Thornley 30
John Thornley 36
Mary A Thornley 8
Nellie Thornley 6
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hi
Could I have census lookups for Samuel Thornley b: 1823 Westhoughton, Lancashire
1841 to 1911
Occupations and Abode's would also be helpful if possible
Children of Samuel and Mary
John Thornley b:1855 Westhoughton
Margaret Thornley b:1859 Westhoughton
George Thornley b: 1861 Westhoughton
not sure if these are all his children
Many thanks
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