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Hello All,
After several years of unsuccessfully trying to trace John Joy, I believe that I have finally found him today.

The National Archives had a Merchant Seaman medal card for him containing information on his next of kin (mother) who was claiming his medals in Oct 1922. The top of the medal card said Deceased.

I've searched Ancestry but can find no further records on him.
Findmypast has the following but I do not have a subscription so would be grateful to anyone who may have, who could kindly do a lookup for me.

I'm interested in the "at sea" to find where his death was registered.
Many thanks
Paul

British Merchant Navy Records 11835 - 1941
Search for John Joy, 1897, Cardiff

Result::
Last name First name(s) Year of birth Discharge no Place of birth County of birth Transcript
JOY J 1060156



Maritime deaths 1794-1964
Search criteria used:
Deaths from 1920 to 1924
First name(s): John
Last name: Joy
JOY John At sea 1922

Well, It doesn't mean anything to me but if you can navigate a map you should be able to work out where he died!

The record gives the time as 1am on 15.4.1922 at Latitude 49 deg. 45' N
and Long. 5deg 50' W

Registration event: death

Name:JOY, John
Date of death:15 April 1922
Age:24
Place of death:At Sea
Place of birth:British,Cardiff
Belonging to service:
Ship's name:River Tawe

Series:BT334 - Registers and Indexes of Births, Marriages and Deaths of Passengers and Seamen at Sea
Box:0080
Page:260


Hope this helps.

Dea x

1901 Census Household Record Household information
Address 3 Tracey Court
Civil Parish St John The Baptist
Rural District
Town or Village or Hamlet Cardiff
Ecclesiastical Parish St John The Baptist
Parliamentary Borough or Division Cardiff Parliamentary Borough
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Cardiff County Borough
Administrative County Glamorgan

Householder 1
Name John Joy
Relation to Head of Family S Son
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 3
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Glamorgan Cardiff
Language English
Infirmity

Householder 2
Name Mabel Joy
Relation to Head of Family S Daughter
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 2
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Glamorgan Cardiff
Language
Infirmity

Householder 3
Name Mary Newbury
Relation to Head of Family Wife
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 28
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Glamorgan Cardiff
Language English
Infirmity

Householder 4
Name Thomas Newbury
Relation to Head of Family Head
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 29
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Fireman Marine
Employment Status
Where Born Glamorgan Cardiff
Language English
Infirmity

He seems to have been transcribed asIvy,with mother Mary,and stepfather
Thomas Newberry age 29. Tracy court Cardiff Thomas is a fireman 1901.
Eileen

JOY J 1060156
it does not say much
engaged 15/05/1925
he was a steward
ship was the Southborough. Cardiff

Maddie - that can't be him - he died in 1922 ??

Dea x

just posting the search from fmp Paul posted
Maddie

Hello Dea & Maddie,
Many thanks for the information. Every little bit helps. I had hoped that when there was a death at sea it still had to be registered but maybe it was at the next port the ship arrived at.

Hello Polly,
Thanks also for the info. His name had been mistranscribed. I have all the information from the census and his birth cert but it was where he had vanished to that I am tracing.
Once again many thanks to you all.
Bye
Paul

Hello Maddie,
They were the only John Joy's I could find on FMP. His medal card definitely says deceased in 1922 so it looks like the J Joy 1060156 is not him looking at the date.
Thanks
Paul

found this death on here

joy john
age 24
name vessel river tawe
page 79

Jang - Kishmat 1922 - 1922 Marine Deaths 1903-1965 thats where i found it