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please can I have look up for 41/51/61 please

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Sidami

Sidami Report 5 Jul 2012 18:44

for John Abbott bn 1766 Beverley yorks thankyou

Mike *

Mike * Report 5 Jul 2012 18:47

Name: John Abbott
Event: Census
Event Date: 1861
Gender: Male
Age: 95
Relationship to Head of Household:
Birthplace: Beverley, Yorkshire
Record Type: Vessel
Registration District: British Ships In Home Ports
Sub-district:
Ecclesiastical Parish:
Civil Parish:
County: British Ships In Home Ports <<<<<<<<<<



Though why he would be on a ship at aged 95 I don't know !

Gee

Gee Report 5 Jul 2012 18:49

Sue

Is that the correct year of birth?


Is this his death?


England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
Name: John Abbott
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1861
Registration district: Beverley
Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 78

Mary

Mary Report 5 Jul 2012 19:00

Sue has got John Abbott born beverley 1816 in her tree.

Maryb.

Ivy

Ivy Report 5 Jul 2012 19:58

Three generations of John Abbott living in Beverley in 1841:

Name: John Abbott
Age: 85
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1756
Gender: Male
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: St Martin
Hundred: Beverley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

View image

Registration district: Beverley
Sub-registration district: Beverley
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1229
Book: 10
Folio: 6
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
John Abbott 55<<<<<<innkeeper
Elizabeth Abbott 55
John Abbott 85<<<<<<no occupation
John AbbottJunr. 25<<<<<butcher
Ann Abbott 15
Mary Abbott 13
Hannah Abbott 25
William Vollum 25

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 5 Jul 2012 20:12

Incidentally, the image for that 1841 Census posted by Ivy shows


John Abbott Jun, age 55, b.ca 1786, Innkeeper

John Abbott Sen, age 85, b. ca 1756, no occupation

John Abbott Jun, age 25, b.ca 1816, Butcher



so quite clearly defines them





sylvia

Ivy

Ivy Report 5 Jul 2012 20:16

Familysearch details state their data on the 95 year old is from findmypast. The associated image on the FMP site has the master of the ship, married, age 45, born Beverley (i.e. fits with the 1816 birth date); the three crew include another John Abbott, seaman, 18, unmarried.

:-) Sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 5 Jul 2012 20:36

A Public Family tree on ancestry has the following on the family from the 1841 Census ...........


although such trees should be treated with caution ............ too many people copy information willy nilly without checking details!



John ABBOTT
Birth Abt 1754 in Shipton, Yks
Death 19 Nov 1844 in Beverley, Yks


John ABBOTT
Birth 17 Nov 1783 in Shipton Yks
Death 16 Jul 1856 in Beverley, Yks


John ABBOTT
Birth 1816 in Beverley, Yks
Death 1861 in Beverley, Yks


No proof for any of the events apart from entries on censuses and freebmd.



and one does have to think what the tree owner is thinking of when you see this bit of magic record for John Abbott the 3rd


Birth
Beverley, Yks

1841 Oct
Age: 25
Marriage
Beverley, Yks


1841
Age: 25
Residence
Beverley St Martin, Yks


1851
Age: 35
Residence
Beverley St Martin, Yks


1861
Age: 45
Residence
Beverley St Martin, Yks


1861
Age: 45
Death
Beverley, Yks



1871
Residence
Vessel Jane Grey, Fife, Scotland


1881
Residence
Vessel Day Spring, Lnd




a ghostly presence????????????????




Hi Ivy :-)





sylvia

Sidami

Sidami Report 5 Jul 2012 20:52

1871
Residence
Vessel Jane Grey, Fife, Scotland
Can you post that census image please

Sidami

Sidami Report 5 Jul 2012 20:53

Thankyou for your help all of you

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 5 Jul 2012 21:11

Sue


he died 10 years before that!!!!!!


at least if you believe the rest of the records as posted by that tree owner




but I'll see if I can pull it up for you

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 5 Jul 2012 21:16

I can't believe the ship had this large a crew ...... but this is all you can see on ancestry.


You have to pay per view on Scotlands People to get the details

1871 Scotland Census

Name: John Abbott
Age: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817
Gender: Male
Where born: york, Beverley, England
Registration number: 443
Registration district: Largo
Civil parish: Vessels
County: Fife
Occupation: Master
ED: Jane gray

John Mclennan 36
Donald Matheson 29
Donald Matheson 29
Alex Mcleod 23
Alex Mcleod 23
Farquhar Mclean 22
Farquhar Mclean 22
John Murray 26
John Murray 26
Wm T Douse 25
Wm T Douse 25
John Mcwilliam 36
John Mcwilliam 36
James Black 30
James Black 30
John Abbott 54
John Abbott 54
George Thompson 27
George Thompson 27
David March 16
David March 16
Joseph Imrie 60
Joseph Imrie 60
Joseph Imrie 25
Joseph Imrie 25
James Mcdonald 65
James Mcdonald 65
George Ritchie 57
George Ritchie 57
James Marr 51
James Marr 51
John Beaton 58
John Beaton 58
Thomas Hunter 57
Thomas Hunter 57
John Man 16
John Man 16
Alex Mckenzie 44
Alex Mckenzie 44
James Mckenzie 34
James Mckenzie 34
Thomas Bird 39
Thomas Bird 39
Wm Bellamy 41
Wm Bellamy 41
John Ritchie 46
John Ritchie 46
Alex Ballern 28
Alex Ballern 28
Wm Olbeg 32
Wm Olbeg 32
Edward Durepit 30
Edward Durepit 30
Stephen Cowling 26
Stephen Cowling 26
James Slinger 16
James Slinger 16
Thomas Fitzpatrick 14
Thomas Fitzpatrick 14
Benjamin Perfect 28
Benjamin Perfect 28
Edward Colverson 35
Edward Colverson 35
Arthur B Clifton 18
Arthur B Clifton 18
Walter J White 16
Walter J White 16
H Van Laar 29
H Van Laar 29
H E Schoon 22
H E Schoon 22
M Schmidt 24
M Schmidt 24
H Wogen 17
H Wogen 17
John Spalding 42
John Spalding 42
James Lumgan 37
James Lumgan 37
George Spalding 14
George Spalding 14
Wm Garker 26
Wm Garker 26
Robert Mckinley 29
Robert Mckinley 29
Andrew Dawson 36
Andrew Dawson 36
Alex Slaker 51
Alex Slaker 51
Wm Sinclair 26
Wm Sinclair 26
Alex Jenkins 16
Alex Jenkins 16
Wm Slaker 17
Wm Slaker 17
John A Innes 15
John A Innes 15
Johnston Anderson 43
Johnston Anderson 43
Wm Fiddes 52



as I thought


This is the crew of the John Abbott ship Jane Gray

John Abbott 54
John Abbott 54
George Thompson 27
George Thompson 27
David March 16
David March 16



sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 5 Jul 2012 21:20

and the 1881 English Census

1881 Census

Name: John Abbott
Age: 65
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Male
Where born: Beverley, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Vessels
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: "Day Spring"
Condition as to marriage: Widow


Occupation: Captain

Registration district: Poplar
Sub-registration district: Poplar
ED, institution, or vessel: Day Spring


John Abbott 65 Widower
Jonathan Abbott 32 b.ca 1849, Beverley, Married, AB Seaman
Harry Mortlock 19 b.ca 1862, Hull, Yorskhire, AB Seaman




sylvia

Sidami

Sidami Report 5 Jul 2012 21:50

why have the names been duplicated?

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 6 Jul 2012 04:50

Probably an error by the transcriber!


............. as one cannot open the image, it is impossible to see whether the names are also duplicated on the original.


As I said, you have to go to Scotland's People, and pay per view to see the actual census image.