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4 Jul 2012 14:49 |
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I am currently looking for any records pertaining to William Farr b 1819 d 1892 Strood, kent who married Catherine Butler b 1826 d 1902 Strood, kent, married 22/9/1850 in Northfleet, Kent. I am trying to trace the ancestors of both these relatives I believe Williams father was John and his mother was Mary Ann Knight, the father of Catherine is only registered on the wedding list as his surname Hills. Can anyone shed any more light for me. Thanks Mike
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4 Jul 2012 15:01 |
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for reference -
Parish Church of Northfleet St Botolph
22nd Sept 1850
William Farr aged 31 - labourer (bachelor) Catherine Butler aged 26 (spinster)
both of Northfleet
Father - John Farr - Blacksmith Father - Hills (I think this could be Mills) - Contractor
Witnesses - George Hopkins and Louisa Sparks
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4 Jul 2012 15:04 |
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Is this the family? Name: William Farr Event: Census Event Date: 1871 Gender: Male Age: 54 Relationship to Head of Household: Self Birthplace: Sheerness, Kent Record Type: Household Registration District: North Aylesford Sub-district: Northfleet Event Parish: Northfleet County: Kent Household Gender Age Birthplace Self William Farr M 54 Sheerness, Kent Wife Catharine Farr F 46 Newington, Surrey Son John T Farr M 16 Northfleet, Kent Daughter Elizabeth A Farr F 8 Northfleet, Kent Son Henry Farr M 8 Northfleet, Kent
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1851 England Censusabout William Farr Name: William Farr Age: 33 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Catharine Farr Gender: M (Male) Where born: Sheerness, Kent, England Civil parish: Northfleet County/Island: Kent Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: Labourer Registration district: North Aylesford Sub-registration district: Northfleet ED, institution, or vessel: 1b Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 96 Piece: 1609 Folio: 54 Page Number: 25 Household Members: Name Age William Farr 33 Catharine Farr 25 Louisa Farr 5 - Daughter born: Northfleet, Kent (so born before the marriage) William Farr 2 Catharine Farr 1 ..................................................................
I think that Louisa may very well be the illegitimate daughter of Catherine:-
Births Mar 1846 (>99%) BUTLER Louisa N Aylesford 5 430 ......................................................................
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4 Jul 2012 15:22 |
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it may help with tracing Catherine's family -
the witness Louisa Sparks was probably this one -
Northfleet St Botolph Parish Church - 19th September 1832
Marriage of William Sparks and Louisa BUTLER
1851
RG number: HO107 Piece: 1609 Folio: 26 Page: 45 Reg. District: North Aylesford Sub District: Northfleet Parish: Northfleet Enum. District: 1A Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: 6, Dock Row North, Northfleet County: Kent
SPARKS, William Head Married M 42 1809 Labourer Northfleet SPARKS, Luisa Wife Married F 37 1814 Northfleet SPARKS, Luisa Daughter F 17 1834 Northfleet CLOVES, Phoeby Sister Married F 26 1825 Northfleet CLOVES, William Nephew M 1 1850 Ramham, Essex DAVIS, John Visitor Unmarried M 32 1819 Bricklayer Ulcom
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4 Jul 2012 15:52 |
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1841 England Census about John Farr Name: John Farr Age: 60 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1781 Gender: Male Where born: Kent, England Civil parish: Northfleet Hundred: Toltingtrough County/Island: Kent Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
View image Registration district: North Aylesford Sub-registration district: Northfleet Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 461 Book: 3 Folio: 4 Page Number: 3 Household Members: Name Age John Farr 60>>>>>>>>>>>>Blacksmith
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4 Jul 2012 16:16 |
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this is the FMP transcription of the 1841 census posted by Helen
1841
RG number: HO107 Piece: 461 Book/Folio: 3/4 Page: 3 Reg. District: Aylesford, North Sub District: Northfleet Parish: Northfleet Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: Plough Yard, Northfleet County: Kent
FARR, John M 60 1781 Kent (Blacksmith) FARR, Mary F 60 1781 Kent FARR, William M 30 1811 Kent (Brick M) (?brick maker?) FARR, Alfred M 15 1826 Kent (Brick M)
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4 Jul 2012 22:45 |
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If father is John and mother is Mary could this be relevant?
England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 about William Farr
Name:William Farr Gender:Male Birth Date:abt 1817 Christening Date:1 Jun 1817 Christening Place:Swanscombe, Kent, England Father's Name:John Farr Mother's name:Mary
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5 Jul 2012 05:17 |
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Louisa was registered under the name Butler
Births Mar 1846 (>99%) BUTLER Louisa N Aylesford 5 430
and so possibly was William, who was also born before the marriage.
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5 Jul 2012 09:50 |
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Thanks all The information on the Farr side appears to be correct, good find on the louisa Sparkes nee Butler. Can anyone help find louisa and Catherine's parents, i'm struggling. Thanks again
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5 Jul 2012 12:06 |
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1841
Name: Catherine Butler Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826 Gender: Female Where born: Kent, England Civil parish: Northfleet Hundred: Toltingtrough County/Island: Kent Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: North Aylesford Sub-registration district: Northfleet Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 461 Book: 2 Folio: 25 Page Number: 45 Household Members: Name Age Jenkins Butler 65 Occ. Brick (something could be layer?) Ann Butler 60 Charlott Butler 35 William Butler 15 Phoeby Butler 15 Catherine Butler 15 Sarah Butler 10 Charlott Butler 8
Could the above Phoeby be the same married sister liiving with the Sparks family in 1851?
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5 Jul 2012 12:10 |
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1851
Name: Ann Butler Age: 71 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1780 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Jankons Butler Gender: F (Female) Where born: Chatham, Kent, England Civil parish: Northfleet County/Island: Kent Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View image Registration district: North Aylesford Sub-registration district: Northfleet ED, institution, or vessel: 2k Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 198 Piece: 1609 Folio: 31 Page Number: 54 Household Members: Name Age Jankons Butler 75 Bricklayer Ann Butler 71
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5 Jul 2012 12:15 |
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Deaths Dec 1851 Butler Jinkens N Aylesford 4 305
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5 Jul 2012 12:25 |
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There are 3 baptisms on Ancestry for children of Jenkins Butler (Louisa, Sarah and Charlotte Jane)
Also William Jenkin Butler, Eleanor Butler, Phoeby Butle, Walter Butler and James Butler father Jenkin Butler
Also Harriet Butler father Jinkins Butler.
I don't have the appropriate sub to look at these but perhaps someone else would post them.
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5 Jul 2012 12:54 |
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England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 about Phoebe Butler Name: Phoebe Butler Gender: Female Birth Date: abt 1824 Christening Date: 15 Aug 1824 Christening Place: Northfleet, Kent, England Father's Name: Jenkin Butler Mother's name: Ann
England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 about Eleanor Butler Name: Eleanor Butler Gender: Female Birth Date: abt 1816 Christening Date: 8 Sep 1816 Christening Place: Northfleet, Kent, England Father's Name: Jenkin Butler Mother's name: Ann
England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 about Harriet Butler Name: Harriet Butler Gender: Female Birth Date: abt 1819 Christening Date: 30 May 1819 Christening Place: Northfleet, Kent, England Father's Name: Jinkins Butler Mother's name: Ann England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 about Sarah Butler Name: Sarah Butler Gender: Female Birth Date: abt 1829 Christening Date: 16 Dec 1829 Christening Place: Northfleet, Kent, England Father's Name: Jenkins Butler Mother's name: Charlotte England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 about Charlotte Jane Butler Name: Charlotte Jane Butler Gender: Female Birth Date: abt 1833 Christening Date: 27 Mar 1833 Christening Place: Northfleet, Kent, England Father's Name: Jenkins Butler Mother's name: Charlotte
The last two have different mothers
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5 Jul 2012 13:04 |
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Thank your Susan.
So Charlotte was the widow of Jenkins Butler's son, also named Jenkin? Sarah and young Charlotte seem to be the Grandchildren of Jenkins and Ann.
Deaths Sep 1840 BUTLER J_nki_ N Aylesford 5 271
(Postems for above entry:16/05/2009 The correct names for this entry is JENKIN Butler )
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5 Jul 2012 13:11 |
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Death Name: William Jenkins Butler Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1850 Registration district: North Aylesford Inferred County: Kent Volume: 5 Page: 287
Birth Name: William Jenken Butler Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1849 Registration district: North Aylesford Inferred County: Kent Volume: 5 Page: 426
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