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William & Catherine Farr

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muttley

muttley Report 4 Jul 2012 14:49

I am currently looking for any records pertaining to William Farr b 1819 d 1892 Strood, kent who married Catherine Butler b 1826 d 1902 Strood, kent, married 22/9/1850 in Northfleet, Kent.
I am trying to trace the ancestors of both these relatives I believe Williams father was John and his mother was Mary Ann Knight, the father of Catherine is only registered on the wedding list as his surname Hills.
Can anyone shed any more light for me.
Thanks
Mike

Choccy

Choccy Report 4 Jul 2012 15:01



for reference -

Parish Church of Northfleet St Botolph

22nd Sept 1850

William Farr aged 31 - labourer (bachelor)
Catherine Butler aged 26 (spinster)

both of Northfleet

Father - John Farr - Blacksmith
Father - Hills (I think this could be Mills) - Contractor

Witnesses - George Hopkins and Louisa Sparks


Catherine

Catherine Report 4 Jul 2012 15:04

Is this the family?
Name: William Farr
Event: Census
Event Date: 1871
Gender: Male
Age: 54
Relationship to Head of Household: Self
Birthplace: Sheerness, Kent
Record Type: Household
Registration District: North Aylesford
Sub-district: Northfleet
Event Parish: Northfleet
County: Kent
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Self William Farr M 54 Sheerness, Kent
Wife Catharine Farr F 46 Newington, Surrey
Son John T Farr M 16 Northfleet, Kent
Daughter Elizabeth A Farr F 8 Northfleet, Kent
Son Henry Farr M 8 Northfleet, Kent

............................................

1851 England Censusabout William Farr
Name: William Farr
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Catharine Farr
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Sheerness, Kent, England

Civil parish: Northfleet
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: Labourer

Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub-registration district: Northfleet
ED, institution, or vessel: 1b
Neighbors: View others on page

Household schedule number: 96
Piece: 1609
Folio: 54
Page Number: 25
Household Members: Name Age
William Farr 33
Catharine Farr 25
Louisa Farr 5 - Daughter born: Northfleet, Kent (so born before the marriage)
William Farr 2
Catharine Farr 1
..................................................................

I think that Louisa may very well be the illegitimate daughter of Catherine:-

Births Mar 1846 (>99%)
BUTLER Louisa N Aylesford 5 430
......................................................................

Choccy

Choccy Report 4 Jul 2012 15:22


it may help with tracing Catherine's family -

the witness Louisa Sparks was probably this one -


Northfleet St Botolph Parish Church - 19th September 1832

Marriage of William Sparks and Louisa BUTLER


1851

RG number: HO107
Piece: 1609
Folio: 26
Page: 45
Reg. District: North Aylesford
Sub District: Northfleet
Parish: Northfleet
Enum. District: 1A
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 6, Dock Row North, Northfleet
County: Kent


SPARKS, William Head Married M 42 1809 Labourer
Northfleet
SPARKS, Luisa Wife Married F 37 1814
Northfleet
SPARKS, Luisa Daughter F 17 1834
Northfleet
CLOVES, Phoeby Sister Married F 26 1825
Northfleet
CLOVES, William Nephew M 1 1850
Ramham, Essex
DAVIS, John Visitor Unmarried M 32 1819 Bricklayer
Ulcom

Helen

Helen Report 4 Jul 2012 15:52

1841 England Census about John Farr
Name: John Farr
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1781
Gender: Male
Where born: Kent, England
Civil parish: Northfleet
Hundred: Toltingtrough
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

View image
Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub-registration district: Northfleet
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 461
Book: 3
Folio: 4
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
John Farr 60>>>>>>>>>>>>Blacksmith

Choccy

Choccy Report 4 Jul 2012 16:16


this is the FMP transcription of the 1841 census posted by Helen


1841

RG number: HO107
Piece: 461
Book/Folio: 3/4
Page: 3
Reg. District: Aylesford, North
Sub District: Northfleet
Parish: Northfleet
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Plough Yard, Northfleet
County: Kent


FARR, John M 60 1781 Kent (Blacksmith)
FARR, Mary F 60 1781 Kent
FARR, William M 30 1811 Kent (Brick M) (?brick maker?)
FARR, Alfred M 15 1826 Kent (Brick M)


Catherine

Catherine Report 4 Jul 2012 22:45

If father is John and mother is Mary could this be relevant?

England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 about William Farr

Name:William Farr
Gender:Male
Birth Date:abt 1817
Christening Date:1 Jun 1817
Christening Place:Swanscombe, Kent, England
Father's Name:John Farr
Mother's name:Mary

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 5 Jul 2012 05:17

Louisa was registered under the name Butler

Births Mar 1846 (>99%)

BUTLER Louisa N Aylesford 5 430



and so possibly was William, who was also born before the marriage.

muttley

muttley Report 5 Jul 2012 09:50

Thanks all
The information on the Farr side appears to be correct, good find on the louisa Sparkes nee Butler. Can anyone help find louisa and Catherine's parents, i'm struggling.
Thanks again

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 5 Jul 2012 12:06

????

1841

Name: Catherine Butler
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Gender: Female
Where born: Kent, England

Civil parish: Northfleet
Hundred: Toltingtrough
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub-registration district: Northfleet
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 461
Book: 2
Folio: 25
Page Number: 45
Household Members: Name Age
Jenkins Butler 65 Occ. Brick (something could be layer?)
Ann Butler 60
Charlott Butler 35
William Butler 15
Phoeby Butler 15
Catherine Butler 15
Sarah Butler 10
Charlott Butler 8



Could the above Phoeby be the same married sister liiving with the Sparks family in 1851?

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 5 Jul 2012 12:10

1851

Name: Ann Butler
Age: 71
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1780
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Jankons Butler
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Chatham, Kent, England

Civil parish: Northfleet
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub-registration district: Northfleet
ED, institution, or vessel: 2k
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 198
Piece: 1609
Folio: 31
Page Number: 54
Household Members: Name Age
Jankons Butler 75 Bricklayer
Ann Butler 71

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 5 Jul 2012 12:15

Deaths Dec 1851 Butler Jinkens N Aylesford 4 305

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 5 Jul 2012 12:25

There are 3 baptisms on Ancestry for children of Jenkins Butler (Louisa, Sarah and Charlotte Jane)

Also William Jenkin Butler, Eleanor Butler, Phoeby Butle, Walter Butler and James Butler father Jenkin Butler

Also Harriet Butler father Jinkins Butler.

I don't have the appropriate sub to look at these but perhaps someone else would post them.


Susan

Susan Report 5 Jul 2012 12:54

England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
about Phoebe Butler Name: Phoebe Butler
Gender: Female
Birth Date: abt 1824
Christening Date: 15 Aug 1824
Christening Place: Northfleet, Kent, England
Father's Name: Jenkin Butler
Mother's name: Ann

England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
about Eleanor Butler Name: Eleanor Butler
Gender: Female
Birth Date: abt 1816
Christening Date: 8 Sep 1816
Christening Place: Northfleet, Kent, England
Father's Name: Jenkin Butler
Mother's name: Ann



England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
about Harriet Butler Name: Harriet Butler
Gender: Female
Birth Date: abt 1819
Christening Date: 30 May 1819
Christening Place: Northfleet, Kent, England
Father's Name: Jinkins Butler
Mother's name: Ann

England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
about Sarah Butler Name: Sarah Butler
Gender: Female
Birth Date: abt 1829
Christening Date: 16 Dec 1829
Christening Place: Northfleet, Kent, England
Father's Name: Jenkins Butler
Mother's name: Charlotte

England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
about Charlotte Jane Butler Name: Charlotte Jane Butler
Gender: Female
Birth Date: abt 1833
Christening Date: 27 Mar 1833
Christening Place: Northfleet, Kent, England
Father's Name: Jenkins Butler
Mother's name: Charlotte

The last two have different mothers

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 5 Jul 2012 13:04

Thank your Susan.

So Charlotte was the widow of Jenkins Butler's son, also named Jenkin? Sarah and young Charlotte seem to be the Grandchildren of Jenkins and Ann.

Deaths Sep 1840 BUTLER J_nki_ N Aylesford 5 271

(Postems for above entry:16/05/2009 The correct names for this entry is JENKIN Butler )

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 5 Jul 2012 13:11

Death
Name: William Jenkins Butler
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1850
Registration district: North Aylesford
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 5
Page: 287


Birth
Name: William Jenken Butler
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1849
Registration district: North Aylesford
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 5
Page: 426