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Hit a brick wall. Looking for the parents of one Robert Poppleton , born around 1820 -possibly earlier, occupation a Blacksmith .
He was apparently resident with his wife for a time in North Shields, Northumberland , in 1855 approx , where and when his son Henry Poppleton was born . However son Henry was a little vague about his birthplace , as it may have been South Shields rather than North Shields.
It seems that Robert was alive at the time of the wedding of his son in 1878 to Elizabeth Jane Bennett. at St.Hilda's , South Shields, Co.Durham. Henry Poppleton was a sailor. Witnesses to the ceremony were :-
William Bulley , a First Officer or Mate.
and
Dorothy Ann Bennett.
Robert disappears after 1878.
Son Henry Poppleton re-appears in the 1891 Census , as a Bosun-sailor , aged 30 yoa , living as a boarder in a seaman's institute or lodging house in Whitechapel, London . However he declares himself single.
There was one child from the marriage of Henry & Elizabeth , a daughter Elizabeth Ann Poppleton , b 1879 in South Shields , Co Durham.
Would appreciate any help in identifying Robert Poppleton.
Regards , Bob Speight

Have you got Henry's birth certificate?
Thanks

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Henry Poppleton
England and Wales Census, 1891
birth: Shields,? Northumberland
census: 1891 England


name: Henry Poppleton
event: Census
event date: 1891
gender: Male
age: 30
relationship to head of household: Boarder
birthplace: Shields, Northumberland
record type: Institution
registration district: Whitechapel
sub-district: Aldgate
ecclesiastical parish: St Pauls Dock Street
civil parish: St Mary Whitechapel
county: London, Middlesex

Elizabeth Jane Bennett
England and Wales Census, 1871
birth: 1858 North Shields,? Northumberland
residence: 1871 South Shields,? Durham,? England
parents: Francis Bennett


name: Elizabeth Jane Bennett
event: Census
event date: 1871
gender: Female
age: 13
relationship to head of household: Daughter
birthplace: North Shields, Northumberland
record type: Household
registration district: South Shields
sub-district: Shields, South
event parish: South Shields
county: Durham

possible

1851 census
Household information
Address Marsh Gate
Parish
District Doncaster, Doncaster
Administrative County Yorkshire (West Riding)

Householder 1
Name Robert Poppleton
Age 25
Estimated Year of Birth 1826
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Blacksmith
Birth Place Doncaster
Birth County Yorkshire

Householder 2
Name Sarah A Poppleton
Age 23
Estimated Year of Birth 1828
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Birth Place Doncaster
Birth County Yorkshire

Householder 3
Name William Poppleton
Age 5
Estimated Year of Birth 1846
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Doncaster
Birth County Yorkshire

Householder 4
Name Robert Poppleton
Age 3
Estimated Year of Birth 1848
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Doncaster
Birth County Yorkshire

Householder 5
Name John Poppleton
Age 0
Estimated Year of Birth 1851
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Doncaster
Birth County Yorkshire

1841 census

Household information
Address Marsh Gate
Parish Doncaster
District Doncaster, Doncaster
Administrative County Yorkshire

Householder 1
Name William Poppleton
Age 40
Estimated Year of Birth 1801
Relationship to Head of Household
Occupation
Birth Place Yorkshire
Birth County Yorkshire

Householder 2
Name Sarah Poppleton
Age 40
Estimated Year of Birth 1801
Relationship to Head of Household
Occupation
Birth Place Yorkshire
Birth County Yorkshire
Householder 3

Name Robert Poppleton
Age 15
Estimated Year of Birth 1826
Relationship to Head of Household
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Yorkshire
Birth County Yorkshire

Householder 4
Name William Poppleton
Age 15
Estimated Year of Birth 1826
Relationship to Head of Household
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Yorkshire
Birth County Yorkshire

Householder 5
Name Mary Poppleton
Age 12
Estimated Year of Birth 1829
Relationship to Head of Household
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Yorkshire
Birth County Yorkshire

Householder 6
Name Richard Poppleton
Age 9
Estimated Year of Birth 1832
Relationship to Head of Household
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Yorkshire
Birth County Yorkshire

Householder 7
Name John Poppleton
Age 7
Estimated Year of Birth 1834
Relationship to Head of Household
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Yorkshire
Birth County Yorkshire

Householder 8
Name Maria Poppleton
Age 5
Estimated Year of Birth 1836
Relationship to Head of Household
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Yorkshire
Birth County Yorkshire

Householder 9
Name Henry Poppleton
Age 3
Estimated Year of Birth 1838
Relationship to Head of Household
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Yorkshire
Birth County Yorkshire

Householder 10
Name Thomas Poppleton
Age 1
Estimated Year of Birth 1840
Relationship to Head of Household
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Yorkshire
Birth County Yorkshire

1861 England Census
Robert Poppleton
Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Poppleton
Gender: Male Where born: Doncaster, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Drypool Town: Kingston upon Hull
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Occupation: blacksmith
Registration district: Sculcoates Sub-registration district: Drypool
ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Household schedule number: 164 Piece: 3580 Folio: 71 Page Number: 27

Robert Poppleton 35
Sarah Poppleton 33
Robert Poppleton 12
William Poppleton 15
James Poppleton 8
xxx Henry Poppleton 3

Source Citation: Class: RG 9; Piece: 3580; Folio: 71; Page: 27; GSU roll: 543155.

Why do you think he was born about 1820 or earlier?

Added:
Births Jun 1858
Poppleton Henry Doncaster 9c 436

Hi Everybody ,
Many thanks for your prompt replies.
I have traced Henry's wife and daughter and the marriage of hs daughter., but many thanks for the additional detail.
1) Patchem - Why do I think Robert was born around 1820 ? To be honest there is so little detail about him in the north east records (he is not on the 1841 , 51 , 61 or 1871 Census. I have not found a record of his marriage or of the birth of his son Henry in either North or South Shields. The only information I have is from the marriage cert of Henry , which gives Henry's age as 23 yoa. The latter , allowing his father two or three years establishment after his apprenticeship , gives a birth year of about 1820, . His birth year could be earlier or slightly later , I grant you , but I had to start somewhere. At the moment I only have two clues about Robert ,all of them from the marriage cert of Henry . All of which assumes that Henry was being truthful. First that Henry's father was definitely Robert Poppleton . Second , that Robert was a Blacksmith.From the lack of a paper trail relating to Robert , including the absence of a north east death cert /registration , suggests he may have travelled around in his occupation as a Blacksmith. Again from his occupation and that the father of Elizabeth Jane Bennett , was a Shipwright , some of Roberts work may have engaged Robert in marine work or even on board a ship.

2) AnnCardiff , PollyPoppet & Patchem. Interesting that you passed on information about Robert Poppleton of Doncaster. I have one record of a Poppleton who was a Blacksmith and who travelled around extensively in Cumberland and south Durham. However he (John Poppleton b c 1906 ) originated in Richmond, Yorks and settled in South Durham. He did not have a son Henry which fitted into the above time span . Most of my Poppleton blacksmiths seem to be in the Doncaster area and are railway related. My hunch is that you are probably right and that Robert maybe one of the Doncaster Poppletons , with the one at Kingston upon Hull as a possibility , however that elusive positive link to the north east Robert is missing.

Regards , Bob Speight

Hi Everybody,
Slight correction in para 2 of my last message re John Poppleton - birth year should read 1806. apologies.
rgds Bob Speight

Just for info:

Crew Lists 1861-1913 - entry details

First name(s): H
Last name: POPPLETON
Made mark:
Capacity: AB
Year of birth: 1857 (calculated) Indenture date:
Age: 34 Indenture port:

Place of birth (transcribed): S Shields
RNVR number:
Place of birth: (standardised) South Shields, Durham
Ticket number:
Previous ship: Gulf Of Martaban
Previous ship port: Gnock
Previous ship year: 1891
Vessel name: Bidar Vessel official number: 87945
Period for crew list: 22 Apr 1891 - 10 Jun 1891
Port: Liverpool
Master: John ELLIS Port registry number: 41
Master's address: Port registry year: 1884
Master's town (transcribed): Gross tonnage: 2876
Master's town (standardised): Net tonnage: 1891
Master's ticket number: Horse power:
Owner: Geo TWEEDY Number of seamen:
Owner's address: 1 Crosby Square
Repository's reference: BT99/1708
Owner's town (transcribed): London EC
Log book available?: No
Owner's town (standardised): London, London

Record source: The National Archives