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Sheppard Family 1851 Warwick

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Susie Floosie

Susie Floosie Report 3 Jul 2012 21:04




These are family members in the 1851 census. I can not seem to fond them on the 1861 census.
Can anyone help ?
The baby Cornelius, maybe now written as just Louis as that is what he was known as in later life.

Any help most grateful

Sue x




Name Age

John Sheppard 30
Maria Sheppard 35
Frederick Sheppard 8
Mary Ann Sheppard 5
William Sheppard 3
Cornelius L Sheppard 3wk

George_of_Westbury

George_of_Westbury Report 3 Jul 2012 21:38


Looks a possible, occupation same as in 1851


SHEPHERD, John Head Married M 42 1819 Gardener
Aston, Warwickshire VIEW
SHEPHERD, Mariah Wife Married F 44 1817
Aston, Warwickshire VIEW
SHEPHERD, Francis Son Unmarried M 20 1841 Carriage Maker
Aston, Warwickshire VIEW
SHEPHERD, Frederick Son Unmarried M 18 1843 Carriage Maker
Aston, Warwickshire VIEW
SHEPHERD, William Son Unmarried M 13 1848 Surgeon Instrumet Maker
Aston, Warwickshire VIEW
SHEPHERD, ... Son M 9 1852
Aston, Warwickshire VIEW
Piece: 2172
Folio: 96
Page: 22
Registration District: Aston
Civil Parish: Aston
Municipal Borough: Birmingham
Address: Stratford Street, Aston, Birmingham
County: Warwickshire


George

Susie Floosie

Susie Floosie Report 3 Jul 2012 21:47

Thanks George, I notice there is no first name for the last son, who I am interested in !

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 3 Jul 2012 21:56

John Shepherd
England and Wales Census, 1861
birth: 1819 Aston,? Warwickshire
census: 1861 Aston,? Birmingham,? Warwickshire,? England


name: John Shepherd
event: Census
event date: 1861
gender: Male
age: 42
relationship to head of household: Head
birthplace: Aston, Warwickshire
record type: Household
registration district: Aston
sub-district: 1 Deritend
civil parish: Aston
county: Warwickshire

Christina(Lancashire)

Christina(Lancashire) Report 3 Jul 2012 21:57

Checked Ancestry's version. His name is Elijah (spelt Elijha on the census). He is listed as Cornelius Elijah on other records.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 3 Jul 2012 22:01

no name here either - other than it's a son

Francis Shepherd
England and Wales Census, 1861
birth: 1841 Aston,? Warwickshire
census: 1861 Aston,? Birmingham,? Warwickshire,? England


name: Francis Shepherd
event: Census
event date: 1861
gender: Male
age: 20
relationship to head of household: Son
birthplace: Aston, Warwickshire
record type: Household
registration district: Aston
sub-district: 1 Deritend
civil parish: Aston
county: Warwickshire

Frederick Shepherd
England and Wales Census, 1861
birth: 1843 Aston,? Warwickshire
census: 1861 Aston,? Birmingham,? Warwickshire,? England


name: Frederick Shepherd
event: Census
event date: 1861
gender: Male
age: 18
relationship to head of household: Son
birthplace: Aston, Warwickshire
record type: Household
registration district: Aston
sub-district: 1 Deritend
civil parish: Aston
county: Warwickshire

William Shepherd
England and Wales Census, 1861
birth: 1848 Aston,? Warwickshire
census: 1861 Aston,? Birmingham,? Warwickshire,? England


name: William Shepherd
event: Census
event date: 1861
gender: Male
age: 13
relationship to head of household: Son
birthplace: Aston, Warwickshire
record type: Household
registration district: Aston
sub-district: 1 Deritend
civil parish: Aston
county: Warwickshire

... Shepherd
England and Wales Census, 1861
birth: 1852 Aston,? Warwickshire
census: 1861 Aston,? Birmingham,? Warwickshire,? England


name: ... Shepherd
event: Census
event date: 1861
gender: Male
age: 9
relationship to head of household: Son
birthplace: Aston, Warwickshire
record type: Household
registration district: Aston
sub-district: 1 Deritend
civil parish: Aston
county: Warwickshire

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 3 Jul 2012 22:01

Francis Sheppard
England and Wales Census, 1871
birth: 1841 Aston,? Warwickshire
residence: 1871 Bordesley,? Aston,? Warwickshire,? England
spouse: Harriett Sheppard
child: Francis F Sheppard


name: Francis Sheppard
event: Census
event date: 1871
gender: Male
age: 30
relationship to head of household: Self
birthplace: Aston, Warwickshire
record type: Household
registration district: Aston
sub-district: Deritend
event parish: Aston
county: Warwickshire

Lynski

Lynski Report 3 Jul 2012 22:05

Is this them???????

1841 census –
WARD, John M 55 1786 Warwickshire VIEW
WARD, Charlotte F 60 1781 Warwickshire VIEW
SHELDON, Martha F 20 1821 Warwickshire VIEW
WRIGHT, John M 15 1826 Warwickshire VIEW
SHEPPARD, John M 25 1816 Warwickshire VIEW
SHEPPARD, Maria F 25 1816 Warwickshire VIEW
SHEPPARD, Francis M 0 (7 months) 1841 Warwickshire VIEW
SCUDAMORE, Harriett F 20 1821 Warwickshire VIEW
PROCTOR, Hannah F 15 1826 Warwickshire VIEW
SNAPE, Thomas M 13 1828 Warwickshire VIEW

Piece: 1148
Book/Folio: 12/29
Page: 12
Registration District: Aston
Civil Parish: Aston
Municipal Borough: Birmingham
Address: Coventry Road, Aston, Bordesley, Birmingham
County: Warwickshire


1851 census –
WARD, John Head Married M 67 1784 Farmer Stoke Coventry, Warwickshire VIEW
WARD, Charlotte Wife Married F 70 1781 Meliden, Warwickshire VIEW
DAWES, Mary A Servant Unmarried F 21 1830 House Servant Cowley, Warwickshire VIEW
SHEPHERD, Francis Visitor M 10 1841 Aston, Warwickshire VIEW

Piece: 2060
Folio: 612
Page: 35
Registration District: Aston
Civil Parish: Aston
Municipal Borough: Birmingham
Address: Coventry Road, Aston, Deritend & Bordersley Ward, Birmingham
County: Warwickshire


1851 census -
SHEPPARD, John Head Married M 30 1821 Gardener Birmingham, Warwickshire VIEW
SHEPPARD, Maria Wife Married F 35 1816 Birmingham, Warwickshire VIEW
SHEPPARD, Frederick Son M 8 1843 Scholar Birmingham, Warwickshire VIEW
SHEPPARD, Mary Ann Daughter F 5 1846 Scholar Birmingham, Warwickshire VIEW
SHEPPARD, William Son M 3 1848 Birmingham, Warwickshire VIEW
SHEPPARD, Cornelius L Son M 0 (3 MOS) 1851 Birmingham, Warwickshire VIEW

Piece: 2060
Folio: 535
Page: 68
Registration District: Aston
Civil Parish: Aston
Municipal Borough: Birmingham
Address: 100, Rarenhurst Street, Aston, Deritend & Bordersley Ward, Birmingham
County: Warwickshire


1861 census -
SHEPHERD, John Head Married M 42 1819 Gardener Aston, Warwickshire VIEW
SHEPHERD, Mariah Wife Married F 44 1817 Aston, Warwickshire VIEW
SHEPHERD, Francis Son Unmarried M 20 1841 Carriage Maker Aston, Warwickshire VIEW
SHEPHERD, Frederick Son Unmarried M 18 1843 Carriage Maker Aston, Warwickshire VIEW
SHEPHERD, William Son Unmarried M 13 1848 Surgeon Instrumet Maker Aston, Warwickshire VIEW
SHEPHERD, ... Son M 9 1852 Aston, Warwickshire VIEW

Piece: 2172
Folio: 96
Page: 22
Registration District: Aston
Civil Parish: Aston
Municipal Borough: Birmingham
Address: Stratford Street, Aston, Birmingham
County: Warwickshire

1861 census -
WILSON, Robert A Head Married M 38 1823 Independent... Northumberland VIEW
WILSON, Sarah Wife Married F 37 1824 Honley, Yorkshire VIEW
WILSON, Norman D Son M 8 1853 Scholar Bumley, Lancashire VIEW
WILSON, Mary D Daughter F 6 1855 Scholar Bumley, Lancashire VIEW
WILSON, ... C Son M 5 1856 Whampton, Staffordshire VIEW
WILSON, Margaret E Daughter F 3 1858 Birmingham, Warwickshire VIEW
WILSON, Lucy A Daughter F 0 (5M) 1861 Birmingham, Warwickshire VIEW
HOLDEN, Ann Servant Unmarried F 27 1834 Cook West Bromwich, Staffordshire VIEW
SUMMONS, Matilda Servant Unmarried F 19 1842 Housemaid Redditch, Worcestershire VIEW
SHEPHERD, Mary A Servant F 16 1845 Nurse Birmingham, Warwickshire VIEW

Piece: 2172
Folio: 97
Page: 24
Registration District: Aston
Civil Parish: Aston
Municipal Borough: Birmingham
Address: Lake Cottage, Henley Street, Aston, Birmingham
County: Warwickshire


The child in 1861 is Elijha on the original.

Is this his birth?

Births Jun 1851 (>99%)
Shepherd Cornelius Elijah Aston 16 177

Do you know the details of John and Maria's marriage, her maiden name?

Andrew

Andrew Report 3 Jul 2012 22:23

Poss marriage??

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Marriages Mar 1840 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

CHATWIN Thomas Aston 16 227
CLAMP Elizabeth Aston 16 227
COURT Thomas Aston 16 227
>>>>HASTELOW Maria Aston 16 227
KENDRICK Elizabeth Aston 16 227
>>>>SHEPHERD John Aston 16 227
SHEPPERD John Aston 16 227
WATTON Edward Henry Aston 16 227
WEBB Eliza Aston 16 227


Andy

Christina(Lancashire)

Christina(Lancashire) Report 3 Jul 2012 22:24

He is either Elija or Cornelius E on all census records. No mention of Louis. This man died in 1902.

How have you got back to your Cornelius (Louis) Sheppard?

Have you found him on the census under that name?

Did Louis marry under that name? If so, who and when?

If Cornelius was known as Louis in later life, then it looks like the son of John and Maria is not your man.

Lynski

Lynski Report 3 Jul 2012 22:28

1881 census -

SHEPHERD, John Head Married M 68 1813 Coal Merchant Birmm, Warwickshire VIEW
SHEPHERD, Maria Wife Married F 71 1810 Birmm, Warwickshire VIEW
SHEPHERD, Cornelius E Son Single M 30 1851 Coal Merchant Birmm, Warwickshire VIEW

Piece: 3082
Folio: 58
Page: 14
Registration District: Solihull
Civil Parish: Solihull
Municipal Borough:
Address: Lode Heath, Solihull
County: Warwickshire

Lynski

Lynski Report 3 Jul 2012 22:29

1891 census -

SHEPHERD, Cornelius E Head Married M 39 1852 Coal Merchant Birmingham, Warwickshire VIEW
SHEPHERD, Mary Wife Married F 28 1863 Solihull, Warwickshire VIEW
SHEPHERD, Edith M Daughter F 3 1888 Birmingham, Warwickshire VIEW
SHEPHERD, Hubert E Son M 1 1890 Birmingham, Warwickshire VIEW

Piece: 2411
Folio: 71
Page: 12
Registration District: Aston
Civil Parish: Bordesley
Municipal Borough: Birmingham
Address: 10 1/2, Wordsworth Road, Bordesley, Birmingham
County: Warwickshire

Susie Floosie

Susie Floosie Report 3 Jul 2012 22:29

Thanks everyone, Lynski, sorry don't know a maiden name for Maria.

I have just started on this line of my family and am trying to establish if the youngest child Shepherd Cornelius Elijah was my great great grandfather Louis Shepherd. Im am tring to trace him through each census to establish if the first name changed.

Many thanks
Sue :-)

Christina(Lancashire)

Christina(Lancashire) Report 3 Jul 2012 22:33

Do you have Louis Shepherd's marriage cert?

Lynski

Lynski Report 3 Jul 2012 22:43

1901 census -
SHEPHERD, Mary Wife Married F 39 1862 Coal Merchant Solihull, Warwickshire VIEW
SHEPHERD, Edith M Daughter Single F 13 1888 Scholar Small Heath, Warwickshire VIEW
SHEPHERD, Elija H Son Single M 11 1890 Scholar Small Heath, Warwickshire VIEW
SHEPHERD, Edgar Chas Son Single M 3 1898 Scholar Small Heath, Warwickshire VIEW

Piece: 2921
Folio: 11
Page: 13
Registration District: Solihull
Civil Parish: Solihull
Municipal Borough:
Address: Malvern Villas, New Road, Solihull
County: Warwickshire




SHEPHERD, Cornelius O Married M 47 1854 Coal Merchant
Lunatic Not Known
Piece: 2850
Folio: 163
Page: 13
Registration District: Birmingham
Civil Parish: Birmingham
Municipal Borough:
Address: Institution: City Asylum, Lodge Road Birmingham
County: Warwickshire

O is an E on the original.


Who is your great grandfather?

Susie Floosie

Susie Floosie Report 3 Jul 2012 22:46

Christina

I have always thought his name was Louis but another family member has connect this Cornelius Shepherd as him. I am trying to establish one way or the other if they are one and the same or 2 different people.

The problem I have is that on the census when he is married to my GG Grandmother she is always the head of the family as a sailors wife this happens in the 1871, 1881as he is obviously away in 1891 she has married again but all the children are still Shepperds. I have presumed he has died.

Its so frustrating!

Christina(Lancashire)

Christina(Lancashire) Report 3 Jul 2012 22:50

So died 1881 - 1891?

What was his wife's name and when did they marry?

Susie Floosie

Susie Floosie Report 3 Jul 2012 22:55

I definately think from all the info everyone has found that Cornelius Shepperd is not my man.

I will do some further work but I think if I go up this line I will be on a wild goose chase !

I need to work backwards from what I do know.

Susie Floosie

Susie Floosie Report 4 Jul 2012 22:35

Christina

His wifes name was Alice Wyatt.

Sue x