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These are family members in the 1851 census. I can not seem to fond them on the 1861 census. Can anyone help ? The baby Cornelius, maybe now written as just Louis as that is what he was known as in later life.
Any help most grateful
Sue x
Name Age
John Sheppard 30 Maria Sheppard 35 Frederick Sheppard 8 Mary Ann Sheppard 5 William Sheppard 3 Cornelius L Sheppard 3wk
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Looks a possible, occupation same as in 1851
SHEPHERD, John Head Married M 42 1819 Gardener Aston, Warwickshire VIEW SHEPHERD, Mariah Wife Married F 44 1817 Aston, Warwickshire VIEW SHEPHERD, Francis Son Unmarried M 20 1841 Carriage Maker Aston, Warwickshire VIEW SHEPHERD, Frederick Son Unmarried M 18 1843 Carriage Maker Aston, Warwickshire VIEW SHEPHERD, William Son Unmarried M 13 1848 Surgeon Instrumet Maker Aston, Warwickshire VIEW SHEPHERD, ... Son M 9 1852 Aston, Warwickshire VIEW Piece: 2172 Folio: 96 Page: 22 Registration District: Aston Civil Parish: Aston Municipal Borough: Birmingham Address: Stratford Street, Aston, Birmingham County: Warwickshire
George
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Thanks George, I notice there is no first name for the last son, who I am interested in !
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John Shepherd England and Wales Census, 1861 birth: 1819 Aston,? Warwickshire census: 1861 Aston,? Birmingham,? Warwickshire,? England name: John Shepherd event: Census event date: 1861 gender: Male age: 42 relationship to head of household: Head birthplace: Aston, Warwickshire record type: Household registration district: Aston sub-district: 1 Deritend civil parish: Aston county: Warwickshire
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Checked Ancestry's version. His name is Elijah (spelt Elijha on the census). He is listed as Cornelius Elijah on other records.
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no name here either - other than it's a son
Francis Shepherd England and Wales Census, 1861 birth: 1841 Aston,? Warwickshire census: 1861 Aston,? Birmingham,? Warwickshire,? England name: Francis Shepherd event: Census event date: 1861 gender: Male age: 20 relationship to head of household: Son birthplace: Aston, Warwickshire record type: Household registration district: Aston sub-district: 1 Deritend civil parish: Aston county: Warwickshire Frederick Shepherd England and Wales Census, 1861 birth: 1843 Aston,? Warwickshire census: 1861 Aston,? Birmingham,? Warwickshire,? England name: Frederick Shepherd event: Census event date: 1861 gender: Male age: 18 relationship to head of household: Son birthplace: Aston, Warwickshire record type: Household registration district: Aston sub-district: 1 Deritend civil parish: Aston county: Warwickshire William Shepherd England and Wales Census, 1861 birth: 1848 Aston,? Warwickshire census: 1861 Aston,? Birmingham,? Warwickshire,? England name: William Shepherd event: Census event date: 1861 gender: Male age: 13 relationship to head of household: Son birthplace: Aston, Warwickshire record type: Household registration district: Aston sub-district: 1 Deritend civil parish: Aston county: Warwickshire ... Shepherd England and Wales Census, 1861 birth: 1852 Aston,? Warwickshire census: 1861 Aston,? Birmingham,? Warwickshire,? England name: ... Shepherd event: Census event date: 1861 gender: Male age: 9 relationship to head of household: Son birthplace: Aston, Warwickshire record type: Household registration district: Aston sub-district: 1 Deritend civil parish: Aston county: Warwickshire
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Francis Sheppard England and Wales Census, 1871 birth: 1841 Aston,? Warwickshire residence: 1871 Bordesley,? Aston,? Warwickshire,? England spouse: Harriett Sheppard child: Francis F Sheppard
name: Francis Sheppard event: Census event date: 1871 gender: Male age: 30 relationship to head of household: Self birthplace: Aston, Warwickshire record type: Household registration district: Aston sub-district: Deritend event parish: Aston county: Warwickshire
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Is this them???????
1841 census – WARD, John M 55 1786 Warwickshire VIEW WARD, Charlotte F 60 1781 Warwickshire VIEW SHELDON, Martha F 20 1821 Warwickshire VIEW WRIGHT, John M 15 1826 Warwickshire VIEW SHEPPARD, John M 25 1816 Warwickshire VIEW SHEPPARD, Maria F 25 1816 Warwickshire VIEW SHEPPARD, Francis M 0 (7 months) 1841 Warwickshire VIEW SCUDAMORE, Harriett F 20 1821 Warwickshire VIEW PROCTOR, Hannah F 15 1826 Warwickshire VIEW SNAPE, Thomas M 13 1828 Warwickshire VIEW
Piece: 1148 Book/Folio: 12/29 Page: 12 Registration District: Aston Civil Parish: Aston Municipal Borough: Birmingham Address: Coventry Road, Aston, Bordesley, Birmingham County: Warwickshire
1851 census – WARD, John Head Married M 67 1784 Farmer Stoke Coventry, Warwickshire VIEW WARD, Charlotte Wife Married F 70 1781 Meliden, Warwickshire VIEW DAWES, Mary A Servant Unmarried F 21 1830 House Servant Cowley, Warwickshire VIEW SHEPHERD, Francis Visitor M 10 1841 Aston, Warwickshire VIEW
Piece: 2060 Folio: 612 Page: 35 Registration District: Aston Civil Parish: Aston Municipal Borough: Birmingham Address: Coventry Road, Aston, Deritend & Bordersley Ward, Birmingham County: Warwickshire
1851 census - SHEPPARD, John Head Married M 30 1821 Gardener Birmingham, Warwickshire VIEW SHEPPARD, Maria Wife Married F 35 1816 Birmingham, Warwickshire VIEW SHEPPARD, Frederick Son M 8 1843 Scholar Birmingham, Warwickshire VIEW SHEPPARD, Mary Ann Daughter F 5 1846 Scholar Birmingham, Warwickshire VIEW SHEPPARD, William Son M 3 1848 Birmingham, Warwickshire VIEW SHEPPARD, Cornelius L Son M 0 (3 MOS) 1851 Birmingham, Warwickshire VIEW
Piece: 2060 Folio: 535 Page: 68 Registration District: Aston Civil Parish: Aston Municipal Borough: Birmingham Address: 100, Rarenhurst Street, Aston, Deritend & Bordersley Ward, Birmingham County: Warwickshire
1861 census - SHEPHERD, John Head Married M 42 1819 Gardener Aston, Warwickshire VIEW SHEPHERD, Mariah Wife Married F 44 1817 Aston, Warwickshire VIEW SHEPHERD, Francis Son Unmarried M 20 1841 Carriage Maker Aston, Warwickshire VIEW SHEPHERD, Frederick Son Unmarried M 18 1843 Carriage Maker Aston, Warwickshire VIEW SHEPHERD, William Son Unmarried M 13 1848 Surgeon Instrumet Maker Aston, Warwickshire VIEW SHEPHERD, ... Son M 9 1852 Aston, Warwickshire VIEW
Piece: 2172 Folio: 96 Page: 22 Registration District: Aston Civil Parish: Aston Municipal Borough: Birmingham Address: Stratford Street, Aston, Birmingham County: Warwickshire
1861 census - WILSON, Robert A Head Married M 38 1823 Independent... Northumberland VIEW WILSON, Sarah Wife Married F 37 1824 Honley, Yorkshire VIEW WILSON, Norman D Son M 8 1853 Scholar Bumley, Lancashire VIEW WILSON, Mary D Daughter F 6 1855 Scholar Bumley, Lancashire VIEW WILSON, ... C Son M 5 1856 Whampton, Staffordshire VIEW WILSON, Margaret E Daughter F 3 1858 Birmingham, Warwickshire VIEW WILSON, Lucy A Daughter F 0 (5M) 1861 Birmingham, Warwickshire VIEW HOLDEN, Ann Servant Unmarried F 27 1834 Cook West Bromwich, Staffordshire VIEW SUMMONS, Matilda Servant Unmarried F 19 1842 Housemaid Redditch, Worcestershire VIEW SHEPHERD, Mary A Servant F 16 1845 Nurse Birmingham, Warwickshire VIEW
Piece: 2172 Folio: 97 Page: 24 Registration District: Aston Civil Parish: Aston Municipal Borough: Birmingham Address: Lake Cottage, Henley Street, Aston, Birmingham County: Warwickshire
The child in 1861 is Elijha on the original.
Is this his birth?
Births Jun 1851 (>99%) Shepherd Cornelius Elijah Aston 16 177
Do you know the details of John and Maria's marriage, her maiden name?
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Poss marriage??
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Mar 1840 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CHATWIN Thomas Aston 16 227 CLAMP Elizabeth Aston 16 227 COURT Thomas Aston 16 227 >>>>HASTELOW Maria Aston 16 227 KENDRICK Elizabeth Aston 16 227 >>>>SHEPHERD John Aston 16 227 SHEPPERD John Aston 16 227 WATTON Edward Henry Aston 16 227 WEBB Eliza Aston 16 227
Andy
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He is either Elija or Cornelius E on all census records. No mention of Louis. This man died in 1902.
How have you got back to your Cornelius (Louis) Sheppard?
Have you found him on the census under that name?
Did Louis marry under that name? If so, who and when?
If Cornelius was known as Louis in later life, then it looks like the son of John and Maria is not your man.
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1881 census -
SHEPHERD, John Head Married M 68 1813 Coal Merchant Birmm, Warwickshire VIEW SHEPHERD, Maria Wife Married F 71 1810 Birmm, Warwickshire VIEW SHEPHERD, Cornelius E Son Single M 30 1851 Coal Merchant Birmm, Warwickshire VIEW
Piece: 3082 Folio: 58 Page: 14 Registration District: Solihull Civil Parish: Solihull Municipal Borough: Address: Lode Heath, Solihull County: Warwickshire
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1891 census -
SHEPHERD, Cornelius E Head Married M 39 1852 Coal Merchant Birmingham, Warwickshire VIEW SHEPHERD, Mary Wife Married F 28 1863 Solihull, Warwickshire VIEW SHEPHERD, Edith M Daughter F 3 1888 Birmingham, Warwickshire VIEW SHEPHERD, Hubert E Son M 1 1890 Birmingham, Warwickshire VIEW
Piece: 2411 Folio: 71 Page: 12 Registration District: Aston Civil Parish: Bordesley Municipal Borough: Birmingham Address: 10 1/2, Wordsworth Road, Bordesley, Birmingham County: Warwickshire
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Thanks everyone, Lynski, sorry don't know a maiden name for Maria.
I have just started on this line of my family and am trying to establish if the youngest child Shepherd Cornelius Elijah was my great great grandfather Louis Shepherd. Im am tring to trace him through each census to establish if the first name changed.
Many thanks Sue :-)
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1901 census - SHEPHERD, Mary Wife Married F 39 1862 Coal Merchant Solihull, Warwickshire VIEW SHEPHERD, Edith M Daughter Single F 13 1888 Scholar Small Heath, Warwickshire VIEW SHEPHERD, Elija H Son Single M 11 1890 Scholar Small Heath, Warwickshire VIEW SHEPHERD, Edgar Chas Son Single M 3 1898 Scholar Small Heath, Warwickshire VIEW
Piece: 2921 Folio: 11 Page: 13 Registration District: Solihull Civil Parish: Solihull Municipal Borough: Address: Malvern Villas, New Road, Solihull County: Warwickshire
SHEPHERD, Cornelius O Married M 47 1854 Coal Merchant Lunatic Not Known Piece: 2850 Folio: 163 Page: 13 Registration District: Birmingham Civil Parish: Birmingham Municipal Borough: Address: Institution: City Asylum, Lodge Road Birmingham County: Warwickshire
O is an E on the original.
Who is your great grandfather?
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Christina
I have always thought his name was Louis but another family member has connect this Cornelius Shepherd as him. I am trying to establish one way or the other if they are one and the same or 2 different people.
The problem I have is that on the census when he is married to my GG Grandmother she is always the head of the family as a sailors wife this happens in the 1871, 1881as he is obviously away in 1891 she has married again but all the children are still Shepperds. I have presumed he has died.
Its so frustrating!
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I definately think from all the info everyone has found that Cornelius Shepperd is not my man.
I will do some further work but I think if I go up this line I will be on a wild goose chase !
I need to work backwards from what I do know.
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