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please can you help i am trying to trace him on censuses as i am finding him hard this is all the info i know

john jame gile born about 1860 not sure where

married jane denley born 1859 in cheltenham glos

married 18/8/1897at st peters church cricklewood london(wilesden )

she is the daughter of joeseph denley born 1834 dursley glos

and emma carter born 1831 dursley glos

they had 10 children

any help would be most usefull

sally w :-S

joeseph and emma had 10 children

For ref.


Name: Jane Denley
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Spouse Name: John James Gile, Widower, Servant
Spouse Age: 41
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 15 Aug 1897
Parish: Cricklewood St Peter
Borough: Barnet
Father Name: Joseph Denley
Spouse Father Name: George Gile, Caterer
Register Type: Parish Register


Both give address as 1 Oak Grove

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation
Disability Where born Image
GILL, John J Head Married M 44 1857 Bus Conductor
York, Yorkshire VIEW
GILL, Jane Wife Married F 40 1861
Cheltenham, Gloucestershire VIEW
GAYLOR, Arthur Boarder Single M 24 1877 Bus Conductor
Clophill, Bedfordshire VIEW Piece: 5336 Folio: 21 Page: 34      Registration District: Hendon Civil Parish: Hendon Municipal Borough: Address: 13, Child's Hill Lane, Hendon, Cricklewood County: Middlesex

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1911 census

Address: 17 Juer St Battersea S W

GILL, John James Head Married M 48 1863 Motor Fitters Yorks Yorksham
GILL, Janie Wife Married15 years F 50 1861 Cheltenham CL
HOLLIN, Constance A Niece Single F 10 1901 Cheltenham CL
BENNETT, C M Boarder Single M 26 1885 Motor Fitter London Middlois

2 children to marriage by 1911, both of whom had died

thanks rootgatherer thats the marrage i have but anne is that the same person i tried to folow him on censuses but could not

:-S sally w

The person I posted on the 1901 is the same as Tempest has posted for the 1911. I took alook at the 1911 and says married 15 years 2 children born and both died by 1911 so marriage years do not fit but not unusual.

thanks anne

it has confused me as the marrage dates are ao differant did they marry twice allso i am trying to find him on census so to trace his birth so am not going down the wrong path

thanks sally w

looking at his father's name and occupation on the marriage, I wonder if this could be him on 1871 census

Address: Copt Hewick Hall Lodge, Copt Hewick

GILL, George Head M 45 1826 Yorkshire Galthap (occupation is butler)
GILL, Ann Wife F 33 1838 Yorkshire Selby
GILL, Richard G Son M 9 1862 Yorkshire Sherry Hutton
GILL, Elizabeth A Daughter F 11 1860 Yorkshire Selby
GILL, Eleanor Daughter F 8 1863 Yorkshire Settrington
GILL, John J Son M 6 1865 Yorkshire York
GILL, Charles C Son M 4 1867 Yorkshire York

Actually Sally the info on the 1911 says 15 years married, if your people married 1897 that is 14 years....so this could be them.

tempest thanks that does seem that it could be right

sally w :-)

Could be him with previous wife

1891

Name: John James Gill
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Annie Gill
Gender: Male
Where born: York, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Leeds
Ecclesiastical parish: St Georges
Town: Leeds
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image

Registration district: Leeds
Sub-registration district: West Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel: 82
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3707
Folio: 84
Page Number: 28
Household Members:
Name Age
John James Gill 31
Annie Gill 40

anne i did not realise the that i thourght the records gave the same info

thanks for telling me

sally w

Same family as Tempests 1871

1861 census transcription details for: Sheriff Hutton

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09 Piece: 3628 Folio: 95 Page: 13
Reg. District: Malton Sub District: 5 Bulmer Parish: Sheriff Hutton
Enum. District: 7 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Sheriff Hutton County: Yorkshire (North riding)

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
GILL, George Head Married M 35 1826 Butler ..., Yorkshire
GILL, Anne Wife Married F 23 1838 Butler Wife Selby, Yorkshire
GILL, Elizabeth Ann Daughter F 1 1860 Selby, Yorkshire

1891 census

Address: Oddfellows Yard, Knaresborough

GILL, George Head Married M 67 1824 Caterer And Cook Galphay, Yorkshire
GILL, Ann Wife Married F 61 1830 Cook Dunsforth, Yorkshire

1871 census would fit this birth?

Civil Registration event: Birth

Name: GILL, John James
Registration district: York
County: Yorkshire
Year of registration: 1865
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 9D
Page no: 14

1901 census

Address: High Street Prospect Terrace, Knaresborough

GILL, George Head Married M 78 1823 Retired Caterer Galphay, Yorkshire
GILL, Ann Wife Married F 71 1830 Low Dunsforth, Yorkshire

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thankyou he did not waist any time
lol thankyou

sally w

Sister Eleanor in 1881
1881 census transcription details for: Rosehurst Woodcock Hill, Pannal

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11 Piece: 4327 Folio: 10 Page: 13
Reg. District: Knaresborough Sub District: Harrogate Parish: Pannal
Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Rosehurst Woodcock Hill, Pannal
County: Yorkshire (West riding)
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
GARNETT, Esther Head Single F 65 1816 Property Owner Bradford, Yorkshire
WRIGLEY, Frances Niece Single F 41 1840 Property Owner Huddersfield, Yorkshire
WRIGLEY, Sarah Esther Niece Single F 27 1854 Property Owner Huddersfield, Yorkshire
HODGSON, Ellen Servant Single F 59 1822 Ladies Maid (Dom) Harewood, Yorkshire
FARRAND, Jane Servant Single F 36 1845 Domestic Servant Almondbury, Yorkshire
GILL, Eleanor Servant Single F 18 1863 Domestic Servant Setterington, Yorkshire
HARGRAVE, Sarah Servant Married F 44 1837 Cook Servant Dewsbury, Yorkshire

1881 census transcription details for: Red House, Monkton Moor

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11 Piece: 4323 Folio: 52 Page: 23
Reg. District: Great Ouseburn Sub District: Poppleton Parish: Monkton Moor
Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Red House, Monkton Moor
County: Yorkshire (West riding)

George is here in 1881 I won't post the rest. Home of Thomas Wardle and family
Servant MArried age 57 b 1824 Butler (Domestic) b Kirby Malzead, Yorks (this place of birth same as the 1861 which was not really legible but now makes sense)

stuart thankyou very much i never have found him

i have a lot to go on now i wil have a good look tomorrow

the namegile/gill is so comon the fathr george uses gill annd john james uses gile it is very clear on his marrage to jane

thankyou all for helping me

i will see how i get on but i might b back

thanks all

sally w :-D