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Hi,
Im looking for my Great Great Great Grandmother pre 1891. I have found her on the 1891 Census married to my G' G' G' Grandfather, and I have their marriage record (Vol 6A P700 Alice STEED and William Morris in 1881, Ledbury, Herefordshire)

However I cant find her on the 1881 as a Morris or a Steed or in the 1871, or 1861 as a Steed. On the 1891 Census her place of birth is Malvern Worcestershire.

Any ideas or help would be great, Thanks!

What is her year of birth?
Thanks

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1891 England Census
Alice Morris Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William Morris
Gender: Female Where born: West Malvern, Worcestershire, England
Civil parish: Worcester
Ecclesiastical parish: West Malvern Town: Mathon
County/Island: Herefordshire Country: England
Registration district: Ledbury Sub-registration district: Ledbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Piece: 2052 Folio: 71
Page Number: 4

William Morris 34
Alice Morris 38
Gertrude Morris 8
Lilian Morris 6
Francis Morris 5
Arthur Morris 2

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 2052; Folio: 71; Page: 4; GSU roll: 6097162.

You haven't given her year of birth. Is this her born in West Malvern in 1853?


1891 England Census
Name: Alice Morris
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William Morris
Gender: Female
Where born: West Malvern, Worcestershire, England

Civil parish: Worcester
Ecclesiastical parish: West Malvern
Town: Mathon
County/Island: Herefordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Ledbury
Sub-registration district: Ledbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2052
Folio: 71
Page Number: 4
Household Members: Name Age
William Morris 34
Alice Morris 38
Gertrude Morris 8
Lilian Morris 6
Francis Morris 5
Arthur Morris 2

1881 England Census
Name: Alice Stead
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Daughter
Mother's name: Jane Stead
Gender: Female
Where born: West Malvern, Worcestershire, England

Civil parish: Mathon
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Dressmaker

Registration district: Ledbury
Sub-registration district: Ledbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2582
Folio: 20
Page Number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
Jane Stead 71
Alice Stead 29
Rosa Stead

Have you got a child's birth certificate, has she been married before, as quite old for first marriage?

1871 England Census
Name: Alice Steed
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James Steed
Mother's name: Jane Steed
Gender: Female
Where born: Mathon, Worcestershire, England
Civil parish: Mathon
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: West Malvern
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Ledbury
Sub-registration district: Ledbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Household schedule number: 77
Piece: 2681
Folio: 12
Page Number: 15
Household Members: Name Age
James Steed 61...Brick Layer employing 2 men??.....Evesbatch, Herefordshire
Jane Steed 61
Jane Steed 26
Alice Steed 21....Dress Maker
Rosa Steed 16
Emma Lewis 7 ...Granddaughter
Jane Pitt 23 ....Servant

All others born in Mathon, Worcestershire.

Did she lie about her age:
Births Dec 1849
STEED Alice Ledbury 26 197
(Ledbury is West Malvern)

Probably just a little white lie as she was older than William?

England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
Name: Alice Steed
Gender: Female
Birth Date: abt 1850
Christening Date: 14 Apr 1850
Christening Place: West Malvern, Worcestershire, England
Father's Name: James Steed
Mother's name: Jane

1861 England Census
Name: Alice Steed
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James Steed
Mother's name: Jane Steed
Gender: Female
Where born: Mathon, Worcestershire, England

Civil parish: Mathon
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Street Address:.....The Hill

Registration district: Ledbury
Sub-registration district: Ledbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 71
Piece: 1808
Folio: 10
Page Number: 14
Household Members: Name Age
James Steed 51 ....Bricklayer Master Employing 6 men...
Jane Steed 51
George Steed 26
Caroline Steed 24
Emma Steed 13
Alice Steed 11
Rosa R Steed 6

All listed as born in Mathon.

1851 England Census
Name: Alice Stees
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James Stees
Mother's name: Jane Stees
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Mathon, Worcestershire, England

Civil parish: Mathon
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Street Address:...West Malvern

Registration district: Ledbury
Sub-registration district: Ledbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 45
Piece: 1975
Folio: 9
Page Number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
James Stees 43 ....Builder
Jane Stees 43
Louisa Stees 19
George Stees 16
Caroline Stees 14
Eliza Stees 9
Jane Stees 6
Emma Stees 3
Alice Stees 1

All born in Mathon.

England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940
Name: Alice Steed
Gender: Female
Birth Date: abt 1852
Age: 29
Father's Name: James Steed
Spouse's Name: William Morris
Spouse's Age: 25
Spouse's Father's Name: Thomas Morris
Marriage Date: 27 Sep 1881
Marriage Place: West Malvern, Worcestershire, England

Yes all that is correct, and you have found a great deal more than I have! How interesting with the little white lie about her age!

Thank you vey much!