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angie2405

angie2405 Report 1 Jul 2012 12:19

I am trying to find the date of a marriage that took place in Ontario, Canada between Mary Esther Greene and Stanley Leopold Fowler/George Stanley Leopold Fowler.

Mary lived in Blackburn and Stanley came from Northampton. We have no idea why or when they went to Canada - did they meet in Canada or did they go off to Canada together

When thy returned to England that had 2 son - Lionel born c1917 Toronto and Ivan born c1918 - we think in Quebec.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks

Angie2405

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 1 Jul 2012 12:36

Marriage took place in Toronto on 18 Jul 1916
Will PM a copy

Anne

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 1 Jul 2012 12:44

Angie, you haven't given their birth years and birthplaces (you did say where they lived). Would this fit?

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935 about Stanley L Fowler
Name: Stanley L Fowler
Gender: Male
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Date of Arrival: 8 Sep 1913
Vessel: Sicilian
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: London, England and Plymouth, England
Roll: T-4804

He was an accountant headed to Toronto, Ontario and intended to stay in Canada permanently.

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 1 Jul 2012 12:49

Travel info looks about right
On the 1916 marriage Stanley Leopold Fowler was 31 yrs and Mary Esther Green was aged 25yrs
Stanley was son of William Fowler and Mary Wilson
Mary Esther was daughter of John Robert Greene and Sophia Jolly

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 1 Jul 2012 12:49

Posting the marriage details as background to work from for other records:

Ontario, Canada, Marriages, 1801-1928
Name: Mary Esther Greene - spinster
Birth Place: England
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Father Name: John Roberts Greene
Mother Name: Sophia Jolly Greene
Spouse Name: Stanley Leopold Fowlar - Accountant, bachelor
Spouse's Age: 31
Spouse Birth Place: England
Spouse Father Name: William Fowlar
Spouse Mother Name: Mary Wilson
Marriage Date: 18 Jul 1916
Marriage County or District: York

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 1 Jul 2012 12:55

A possible for Mary Esther:

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Mary Greene
Gender: Female
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Date of Arrival: 14 Nov 1914
Vessel: Grampian
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-4813

She was a telephonist who was heading to her un-named brother-in-law who was in Toronto. He was a store-keeper and had been in Canada 4 years.

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 1 Jul 2012 13:06

Travel info for Mary Greene who travelled aboard the Grampian 1914 states she was going to "Brother in law, store keeper, 4yrs in Canada"
Her occupation was telephonist and intended to do the same in Canada

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 1 Jul 2012 13:10

Just before their marriage they travelled together to US:

Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956
Name: Stanley L Fowler
Arrival Date: 24 Jun 1916
Port of Arrival: St Albans, Vermont, United States
Age: 31
Birth Date: abt 1885
Birth Country: England
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: English
Record Type: Manifests

He was an accountant, travelling with Mary E Green age 25.

(Image very blurred and can't make out where they'd been or where they were headed).


He was back and forth a few times - may have been business trips?

Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956
Name: Stanley L Fowler
Arrival Date: 12 Jun 1916
Port of Arrival: Lewiston, New York, United States
Arrival Contact: Frd J Sidney Starling
Age: 31
Birth Date: abt 1885
Birth Place: Northampton
Birth Country: England
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: English
Record has photo?: No
Record Type: Cards

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 1 Jul 2012 13:15

You already had the marriage details:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1296265

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 1 Jul 2012 13:27

Angie - down the left hand side of these screens is a link called "My Threads".

Good idea if you check in there to see what you've already got rather than posting the same request again and people duplicating what has already been done.

If you want further info on a family then just add to an existing thread about the same people.

angie2405

angie2405 Report 1 Jul 2012 18:47

Please accept my apologies for the duplication :-(

Thanks to everyone for your help :-D

Stanley & Mary Esther must have returned to England before 1921 - they had a son, Jack b1921 [birth registered jun qtr]

They had 2 sons - Lionel and Ivan born in Canada - is there any record of their birth please ?

Regards
Angie2405

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 1 Jul 2012 18:52

Hello again Angie, I think the boys births are too recent to show on any on-line index. Canada has much stricter privacy laws than we do so there's not so much info available. For example, the Ontario births only go up to 1913 and I believe some states have a 120 year rule.

I'm sure one of our Canadian researchers will clarify.

Somebody has already posted their return to England on your earlier thread.

angie2405

angie2405 Report 1 Jul 2012 20:07

Thanks for your assistance :-D

Angie2405