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(had spare credits on above link, so curiosity made me look, lol, age given as 27, abode at time of Death, 7, Eden Grove, Islington)

Not seeing another Death...

Chris :)

I wonder if that is this one then Chris?
June 1900

Gray Falmouth Francis J 27 Islington 1b 160

Gray, Francis Joseph Buried on: 02 Jun 1900 Recorded at: Islington Cemetery (Islington)

(from below link, pay to view website)

https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch


Chris :)

I checked the London records too Shirley no sign.

You will need to get one of the children's birth certificates Laura to confirm the name of the father, also if you haven't got it the marriage cert for Elizabeth would be useful to show whether she married as a widow,

You would need to buy the marriage cert to Elizabeth , this would give his age and his fathers names ,if known .

Or you could buy one of the children birth certs to see who is named as the father.

I cant see either of the marriages on Ancestry London parish records.

Its more than likely tho that Francis the son was named after his dad

Shirely how would i get the father up with tha alot sites i go on just gives me basic info with no parents.
thanks for help everyone. if i could def pinpoint the father could find out what happened, weather he died or they diveroced.

wonder what her marital status was on the mariage to Frederick

cant see a death for Francis senior

this should give you the dads name

Births Jun 1896
Gray Francis Islington 1b 404

she married as Sinfield not Gray

Marriages Dec 1900
Inwood George Edmonton 3a 828
Sinfield Elizabeth Edmonton 3a 828 >>>>>>>
Turner Sarah Jane Edmonton 3a 828
Williams Frederick Edmonton 3a 828 >>>>>>>>

Marriage I think

Marriages Jun 1895 (>99%)

Gray Francis Joseph Islington 1b 618
Singfield Elizabeth Islington 1b 618

Possibly this birth as Islington covered Highbury

Births Jun 1896 (>99%)


Gray Francis Islington 1b 404

Births Dec 1897 (>99%)
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Gray Mary Elizabeth Islington 1b 318

Just for ref

1901 England Census
about Francis Gray Name: Francis Gray
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Relation: Stepson
Mother's name: Elizabeth Williams
Gender: Male
Where born: Highbury, London, England

Civil parish: Tottenham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Anne
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Edmonton
Sub-registration district: Tottenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 55
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 448
Piece: 1254
Folio: 148
Page Number: 73
Household Members: Name Age
Frederick Williams 24
Elizabeth Williams 25
Francis Gray 4
Mary Gray 3
Maria Sinfield 14

Hello,
I am hoping someone can assist, i have stumbled across a mystery in my tree. I have an ancestor by the name Elizabeth Williams nee SINFIELD born 1974 i Hackney parents Thomas and Betsy Sinfield. I have what seems to be a second marriage to a frederick Willaims in dec 1900 but Elizabeth seems to already have two children at this point by the surname of GREY Francis 1897 and Mary 1898. I would love to be able to locatetheir father and what happened to him if possible. I have her in the Census but in the 1891 she is down as Sinfield then by next one has already ammried Frderick. Any help on this mystery would be great.
Laura.